Hitler, Nazis and Racists

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It seems that the loony loopy Luddite left has been reduced to baby talk.  No longer able to discuss issues rationally, they must resort to using on of the 3 title words to enter into any discussion or debate.  No longer able to engage in rational discourse, the first words out of their mouth is "bush is Hitler" or "conservatives are Nazis" or "this amendment is racist" (Harry Reid).

Racist?  OK, as Bakerstreet likes to point out, it is cultural supremacist.  It is jingoistic.  But Racists?  Since when is a race, any race, limited to one language?  Whites?  Nein, Mein herr (oder Damen).  Blacks?  How many know that Swahili is a made up language by {shock} Englishmen!  The continent speaks more languages, as do blacks the world over, than carter has liver pills (Ever seen a Black German speaking fluent German and English with a British accent?  I have!)  Hispanics?  get a life!  They are not a race.  They include not only people of Spanish descent, but Portuguese as well (want to tell the Portuguese are really Spanish?  Want to live very long?)  And no, not all speak Spanish!  Seen the blond haired senorita from Majorca?  Asian?  While the Chinese and Japanese writings are very pretty, they are hardly interchangeable.  And what about Korean, Vietnamese, Cambodian, etc.  Polynesian?  Send a Tahitian to Hawaii and see how well he gets along!

No, the simple fact is language is language, and race is race.  And to make a statement like Harry Reid did is tantamount to extreme bigotry.  And ignorance.  But I repeat myself.

No, harry Reid, the only thing racist about making English the National language of the US is your statement.  It may be egotistical.  It may be arrogant.  It may be superfluous.  But it is not racist.  No, Harry Reid, you are the racist for thinking that all foreigners only speak Spanish, and thus must fit into your myopic stereotype of being Mexicans - which in itself is very racist as well.  You learned well from your democrat roots.  Congratulations and you may now don your hood from your racist roots.

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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top

Disclaimer for the easily Offended:

First, not all democrats are Loony, Loopy Luddite Lefties, and not all liberals are either

Second, not all democrats are racists.  This is Cinderella time.  If the shoe fits, wear it.  Otherwise just pass it to the democrat leader of your choice.

Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: Dr. Guy


What! They arn't!? *falls over dead*



Anywho, It amazes me...no, it confounds me...why we continue to elect these...morons.


~L

Attorney: "You sir are a moron!"

Homer: "Morman, but I'm from Earth!"
Sins of a Solar Empire: Rebellion
Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top

Anywho, It amazes me...no, it confounds me...why we continue to elect these...morons.

They do because they do not think about what the clowns are saying, only that they are saying it.  And since it fits their world view, they allow for the "crazy uncle' syndrome.

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Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top
I'm not one of those conservative racists who thinks the National Anthem should ONLY be sung in English; sing it in any langauge you choose, but don't alter the lyrics. If you're gonna translate it, make it a direct translation. This is what I take issue with. The "new" "Star Spangled Banner", as sung in Spanish, has different lyrics from the song as we know it. I can't find the link I had to them; if anyone knows where to find it, please link.

Don't forget:

Dingy Harry is a liberal and a Democrat; any effort to bolster American patriotism or national pride is anathema to them.
Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top
With there very good chance of winning the houise this year, we can only hope idiots like Murtha and reid and pelosi continue to shoot there big hate all things america mouths off. If we hold the house this year we have Murtha, Reid, Pelosi, hillary, kerry and dean to thank.. oh yeh drunken ted too.
Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top

Dingy Harry is a liberal and a Democrat; any effort to bolster American patriotism or national pride is anathema to them.

beyond that, any rational discourse appears to be an anathema to them!  They cannot debate, only name call.  And they want to win in November?  What are they going to do?  Call Michael Steele, Lynn Swann, and Ken Blackwell racists?  WAIT!  They already have those poor pathetic excuses for human flesh.

Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top

With there very good chance of winning the houise this year, we can only hope idiots like Murtha and reid and pelosi continue to shoot there big hate all things america mouths off. If we hold the house this year we have Murtha, Reid, Pelosi, hillary, kerry and dean to thank.. oh yeh drunken ted too.

What amazes me is that even with their allies in the supposedly neutral MSM, they can spout this racists bigotted crap and the sheeple go along with it!  My disclaimer notwith standing, people who continue to vote for this racist people are either idiots or closet racist themselves.

Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top
Love ya Doc.
Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top

Love ya Doc.

High praise from the Dude!  Thank ye.

Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top
Another thing not to forget:

This is the party that prides itself on its coming to the rescue of minorities by keeping them addicted to Welfare and myriad other government handout programs.
The Dems get their votes by keepin' a Brother down.

They are cynical and myopic and have no shame.
Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top

This is the party that prides itself on its coming to the rescue of minorities by keeping them addicted to Welfare and myriad other government handout programs.

They are also the party that is running a racist in Alabama. And supporting him, when the republicans refused to support david Duke.  But ignore those men behind the curtian.

Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
It's a shotgun tactic, really. They have a list of rhetorical shrapnel that they like to chunk out as often as they can in speeches. "Racist" is a good one because it guarentees whoever says it will be quoted by some news service or other.

The article above hits it perfectly when it says that the people who pretend to be representing minorities are as often racist, or racially ignorant. If Dem attitudes were looked at with the scrutiny Republicans endure, people would see that their condescending "Don't worry, we'll take care of you" crap is a hundred times more racist.
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Reply #14 from JoeUser Forums Top
What I want to know is this:

What's wrong with cultural supremacy?

Is it not true that some cultures are better than others?

Is it not true that if you participate in a certain culture, you must believe it is superior? If you didn't believe that, wouldn't you have chosen some other culture to participate in? Wouldn't you be kind of an idiot not to promote a culture you had chosen for its superiority over other cultures?

And wouldn't you want your government to promote the culture you believe is superior, and in which you have invested your life, over other, inferior cultures?
Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top
"What's wrong with cultural supremacy?

Is it not true that some cultures are better than others?"


Not that I am aware of. How would you judge "better" Schatzie?

If we had a culture, maybe you could make the point it is better. This isn't pro-culture, it's anti-culture. "American" culture is just an amalgam of all the other cultures we look down own noses at. We look down on rednecks, hillbillies, mexicans, urban blacks, telling them all they need to learn how to speak, while rushing headlong to cram as many of the words they come up with into our dictionary.

"American", non-ethnic culture makes me sick, frankly. That weird, newscaster-satitized culture creeps me out. You can be any ethnicity, but still have that Burt Parks whitebread announcer's voice and perfectly styled hair. It's a fake set, a hollow statue, soul-less. Non-ethnic America is all evangelists and politicians.

Make your drum-thumping statements, I don't care. They are meaningless because in the end American culture is a big leech on the butt of everything it pretends to dispise. Without all the people abusing language and behaving in totally non-generic ways there'd be nothing of interest here at all. We are going to talk any way we want and people are going to go right on griping about it.

People learn English without empty statements like this vote. This vote isn't going to make anyone learn English. Worse, it just makes the issue look as styled and empty as a newscaster's head.
Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top
Yes Baker!

A cultural supremecy would be the downfall of all of what the US has stood for. Just look at Iran. Marking non-muslims. Hmmm smells like what Hitler had cooking. Having a quote 'cultural supremecy' would be disasterous. I doubt many others have been watching lil Kyrgyzstan (unless they are following the Bishkek Manas Airbase ordeal) but they are going through a national language. Right now it is Russian but the vast majority of the people speak Kyrgyz (a turkish language). The national language is Russian due to the Soviet rule. Just bringing up the issue caused great division and since 'security' isn't as efficient as here in the US this was more problematic. It was downright scary for some of the Russians who still reside there. Some of which left. We already have the division of right and left wing here we don't need more obstructions to continue to divide us.

On another note growing up in a predominant Hispanic area I learned to speak spanish because otherwise I would be able to buy what I needed. This is the same as New York, LA and other large cities when they first started. WOuld you agree Baker?
Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top
That's the key, really. People will learn to speak whatever language they NEED to speak, without the government mandating it. The fact that millions of people in the US can get by without knowing English kind of betrays the point of all this furor. If knowing english was a sink-or-swim kind of thing, would you need all this voting and speechmaking?

To me it is about keeping America sounding, if not looking, the same whether it would naturally do so or not. I think it is strange that people keep claiming to be worried about the poor, non-English speakers when the rest of the time they are complaining about not being able to order at their local McDonalds because no one there speaks good English. Who, exactly, are the ones in need, after all?
Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top
I assume that you are refering to those who came here LEGALLY right?

It seems to me that many are nearsighted and see it as an inconvience. This may promote our schools to be more proactive with multiple languages. My fiance can speak three languages very well and knows a little in at least three others. This is coming from a third world country. We, I am afraid have become like spoiled brats. Crying because things are changing.

Doc, wasn't so much raving about your article it was more of a shout out. There are three who are in my circle (as if that means anything ). I may not agree with ya but you are one of the three. Baker you and I have had our disagreements (the light issue) but I still have respect for you and your thoughts. So that makes two.
Reply #19 from JoeUser Forums Top
I really don't see it as a legal/illegal issue, frankly. If anything this is more of a smack to the legal immigrants that have for one reason or another not learned English sufficiently to please the critics. You don't need to make English an issue to deal with people who are here illegally, their status is enough.

The only people this would legitimately impact are the people we are trying to point to as "good" immigrants. Is this the point in time when we want to be even MORE nitpicky? Or should we spend our time focusing on people who break the law and quit tagging meaningless riders onto new laws that only annoy the people we claim to appreciate.

That's the danger here, frankly. We claim to love immigrants and only to be upset about the illegal aliens, and then we turn around and vote yes on something like this. It just gives ammunition to the people who want the world to believe that we are just anti-immigrant altogether.
Reply #20 from JoeUser Forums Top

It's a shotgun tactic, really. They have a list of rhetorical shrapnel that they like to chunk out as often as they can in speeches. "Racist" is a good one because it guarentees whoever says it will be quoted by some news service or other.

I know, and it is a fact of life.  But it is getting real old, especially since the only avowed racists right now are in the democrat party.

Reply #21 from JoeUser Forums Top

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Thanks Dyno.

Reply #22 from JoeUser Forums Top

Is it not true that if you participate in a certain culture, you must believe it is superior? If you didn't believe that, wouldn't you have chosen some other culture to participate in? Wouldn't you be kind of an idiot not to promote a culture you had chosen for its superiority over other cultures?

The PC crowd does not want to acknowledge it, but you are correct.  Virtually everyone is a cultural supremecist by virtue of the fact they prefer that one to any others.  However it is not PC to admit or acknowledge that fact.

Reply #23 from JoeUser Forums Top

People learn English without empty statements like this vote. This vote isn't going to make anyone learn English. Worse, it just makes the issue look as styled and empty as a newscaster's head.

The amendment is a pure vote grab, that I dont deny.  But it has nothing to do with race, and certainly it is not a statement on American Culture.  For the patios of the bayous is barely recognizable in the nasal fiefs of Boston.  Yet they are supposed to be both english.

The amendment is a pandering for votes.  Nothing more, nothing less.

Reply #24 from JoeUser Forums Top

A cultural supremecy would be the downfall of all of what the US has stood for. Just look at Iran. Marking non-muslims. Hmmm smells like what Hitler had cooking.

You are confusing cultural supremecy with Facism.  Cultural Supremacy does not believe we, the people, are superior, only that our culture is better than any others. And hence why we made it what it is.

Reply #25 from JoeUser Forums Top

This is coming from a third world country. We, I am afraid have become like spoiled brats. Crying because things are changing.

Oh, I dont disagree.  We are spoiled.  For a couple of centuries we were separated from the world by oceans and did not have to learn other languages.  But that has changed, and people hate change, even tho the only constant in life is change.