Yes, Gene you ARE giving so ownership of fault to Bush (which is not ironic from you).

You all must be out to lunch. I did not say Bush Caused the problem but he did not take the steps that were available to reduce the adverse impact on this country.

If this is not a contradiction on to itself I don't know what is. He doesn't blame Bush but it's Bush's fault.

I think we are finally breaking him. He is reaching his breaking point and finding himself running in circles with the same answers.

But Charles, He didn't say Bush 'caused' it only he is blaming him. Would you care for some butter any Grade A Maple Syrup?

Haven't laughed like this in a while. If this were a school Col could be elected as class clown and most likely to annoy you.

Hey Charles,

Did you have a Tax Deduction option if you bought a Hybrid vehicle?

#31 by Adventure-Dude Friday, April 28, 2006

Hey Charles, Did you have a Tax Deduction option if you bought a Hybrid vehicle

I can answer that, yes, 2,000 first year, 900 second and 600 third.

Gene - once again you have your head shoved up your ass. I work in oil and gas. I am intimately familiar with how the market works. The very first point where you are wrong is, the price of gas has nothing to do with America. This is a world market product.

Ted was right when he said this is equilibrium in the market. If you are upset about the price at the pump try giving up a trip here or there. Ask a friend, can we carpool? This will have the single greatest effect on the market. Gid said it best in another thread. Oil companies have no use for un-purchased gas.

If the president had made a requirement for all vehicles to be more fuel efficient in 2001 the big auto makers would still be bitching and moaning and little or nothing would be done.

As long as the general population is jumping in their 148 cylinder Ford Excursion School Bus Edition to go get a gallon of milk when that trip could easily wait to be on the way to or from something else we are not going to see a drop in prices. Conservation is the answer. More fuel efficient cars are not (even though they will help).

Even if they made them, Can you go out and buy a new car to save a few more miles per gallon? I am the average American and I have to drive a car into the ground. I just can't afford to do it any other way, but I'm sure that is somehow Bush's fault.

I can answer that, yes, 2,000 first year, 900 second and 600 third.

And MM where did this tax break come from?

It came from the senate. after being introduced first to a Democaratic Senate in 2001. It wasn't until 2003 that it finally passed. There are things that have been done to raise the consumer awareness and interest into purchasing these energy efficient vehicles. But Col instead of pointing to the American people you point it to Bush.

#34 by Adventure-Dude Friday, April 28, 2006

you answered your own question... no fair!

AD unfair to old farts with something to say!! heh heh heh

AD unfair to old farts with something to say!! heh heh heh

ha ha Sorry MM you know I got a lotta love for ya!

You all miss the point. Leaders lead. They find solutions to difficult situations even when that had no part in their creation. Bush has done NOTHING to move us closer to a solution to ANY major issues that faced him when he became President and has created a huge fiscal mess with his tax and spend policies. He has creates another major issue by attacking Iraq that has created security, diplomatic as well as financial problems for our country.

Bush will go down as a president that solved NOTHING and allow the issues facing America get progressively worse while he was in office.

Col,

What do you drive? What are YOU doing to conserve gas?

I drive a small pick up truck. I wish I had the option to purchase one that got better mileage. However, that option is not available because Bush refused to continue the cafe standards and REQUIRE higher gas mileage. Now 5 1/2 years later he, under pressure, is looking at higher gas mileage for cars, SUV's and trucks. Why did he OPPOSE this very same suggestion 5 years ago?

I reiterate What are YOU doing to conserve gas?

I am driving less. Very few pleasure trips. The answer I want is better gas mileage or alternate fuel vehicles at a reasonable cost. Had Bush done in 2001 what he now talks about, the higher mileage cars would be on the road saving gas.

The profits oil companies are making provide ALL the added capital needed to increase exploration and to build new refining facilities.

Now go talk to the libs and the green weenies that have BLOCKED the building of new refineries for the last "35" years!

The answer I want is better gas mileage or alternate fuel vehicles at a reasonable cost. Had Bush done in 2001 what he now talks about, the higher mileage cars would be on the road saving gas.

And cars that get 45 miles to the gallon isn't an improvement?

Most SUV's and other cars are NOT getting anything close to 45 MPG

The oil company profits have not been used to develop other sources of energy. They have gone into the pockets of the top management and the stockholders. A few get rich and the majority pay through the nose. That is what Bush and people that support him are allowing

If you Bushies do not think the GOP is worried about November 2006, think again!

A Democratic win in the House and Senate could send King George and Draft Dodger Dick into early retirement!

A Democratic win in the House and Senate could send King George and Draft Dodger Dick into early retirement!

And a pillow strategically placed by your wife would put us all out of our misery you old troll.

I blogged a long time back on Bush proposing changes and demanding improvements in CAFE type standards, but those changes met with opposition in Congress. And btw, it's Congress that sets such standards and passes such laws. Have you tried lobbying your resident idiots in congress to demand that they pass higher standards and make changes that will improve gas mileage in personal vehicles? I'm sure the answer is just like your lame excuse about not being able to buy anything better than a small pick up truck, which is L A M E.

You could be riding a bicycle, driving a Toyota Prius, or for that matter driving something like a Geo Metro to get better gas mileage, but you go riding around in a pick up truck and blame someone else for your not getting off your duff and trading in your guzzler for something that gets many more miles to the gallon.

If you personally haven't traded in your vehicle when you could get something that gets 10 mpg or more over your old vehicle, then you personally forfeit your right to bitch about this subject at all. And I highly doubt that you could meet that test.

Let me guess, Chevy S10 type vehicle, 20 MPG if you are lucky. A Toyota Prius (for your own personal smugness, sniff that you old fart!) would get approximately 40 MPG. Twice the MPG, if not more. A savings of 50% over the course of a year in the amount of fuel you personally consume. More savings in the amount of pollutants you put in the air, leading to the global warming you'll surely be bitching about again soon.

So again, put up or shut up you tired old troll. Either that, or have a great dream about eating marshmallow while chomping on pillow plz.

Yes and they are just like Bush Idiots. We have two former oil men in power and have done LESS to solve the energy issue then EVER. So long as the BIG OIL BUSINESS conservatives are in power, there is no solution. We need another 1994 but this time to the GOP!