Iran Tells the United Nations ,

More proof how weak and useless the U.N. is

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Well folks the deadline has come and passed and Iran a true rogue nation has told the United Nations to go take a flying leap off a cliff.

The President of Iran has shown how dangerous the nation has become and how weak the United Nations is without a strong American military to back it up.

America has long been the heart and soul of the U.N. but with us bogged down and locked into the every more spiraling out of control situation in Iraq, the U.N. has no backbone nor the will to do anything but make useless threats.
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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top
I say we should just let Iran do what they want. Once we can prove they do have nukes and wait to see what happens. If they do attempt to use them we have an excuse to level the country.
Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top
I cant really blame Iran.  I mean when was the last time the UN acted decisively?
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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top
#1 by Charles.C
Friday, April 28, 2006


say we should just let Iran do what they want. Once we can prove they do have nukes and wait to see what happens. If they do attempt to use them we have an excuse to level the country.


no one wins in war, and Iran will use nukes if they can.
Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top
#2 by Dr. Guy
Friday, April 28, 2006


cant really blame Iran. I mean when was the last time the UN acted decisively?


1991 gulf war.. and even then the united states carried the bulk of the burden. the united nations is a defunct machine that just does not know it's broken.
Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top
#5 by highbass
Friday, April 28, 2006


agree with charles c on this


good agreement is always good.
Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top
I say we should just let Iran do what they want. Once we can prove they do have nukes and wait to see what happens. If they do attempt to use them we have an excuse to level the country.

i agree with charles c on this


So you'd like to see Israel a smoking glass crater? Our (the UN, the IAEA, the US gov't) responsibility to the world community is to see that Iran isn't allowed to make weaponizable uranium. They only have the right, under the NPT, to develop nuclear energy. And we, as an international community, would allow them to -- heck, we'd help them to!

But they don't want to stop there. And you're saying let them, and we'll just clean up what's left of the Middle East?
Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top
#7 by singrdave
Friday, April 28, 2006


So you'd like to see Israel a smoking glass crater


my biggest fear is Israel is NOT GOING to stand by and allow Iran to build nukes, Israel will strike first and then the crap will really hit the fan.
Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top

I wonder how you say "frack" in Arabic.

HAHA.

And I wonder how many times they can say it before the UN understands it?

 

Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: Tova7Posted: Saturday, April 29, 2006I wonder how you say "frack" in Arabic.HAHA.And I wonder how many times they can say it before the UN understands it?


the U.N. neds to go away.. when nations like Iraq tells you fuck off, how much power do you have?
Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
The next few days (yes, days) should bear out exactly what is going to happen regarding this issue. Iran clearly wants nuclear weapons. They have found the enrichment formula. They can centrifuge all the uranium hexafluoride they darn well please.

So now it's up to the UN, the IAEA, the US, and.. yes, Israel (since Iran admits freely the intent of its nuke program is to destroy Israel) to get this genie back into its bottle. And that may actually involve blowing up the genie, the bottle, and the beach where it washed ashore.

(Sorry, I held onto that metaphor a bit too long. It's late and I'm tired.)
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
There's more to this than meets the eye, in my opinion. I don't think Iran, insane as they are, would be walking with their balls hanging out if they didn't have an ace in the hole. I think they are being stoked by NK and China on this one to believe when crunchtime comes they won't be standing alone.
Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top
(BTW, MM, you win the Battlestar Galactica Award for 'Best Use of the Word "Frack" in a Real Sentence'.)
Reply #14 from JoeUser Forums Top
if they didn't have an ace in the hole. I think they are being stoked by NK and China on this one to believe when crunchtime comes they won't be standing alone.

Hmmm... something I hadn't thought about. China does have a seat on the Security Council and can veto any invasive act against Iran... hmmmm... worth considering. Thanks, Baker.
Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top
Israel is the most like candidate to nuke an Iranian facility.

What ever happened to the old days when we were backing the good guys in Iran, Saddam was our friend and we had just taken away Palestine and made Israel out of it.
It's funny how foreign policy comes back to bite you in the ass.

Thank god American Indians hadn't thought of suicide bombings as a way to protest.



Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top

What ever happened to the old days when we were backing the good guys in Iran, Saddam was our friend and we had just taken away Palestine and made Israel out of it.
It's funny how foreign policy comes back to bite you in the ass.

YOu must be a young pup, as you have no conception of foreign policy.  If you did, you would realize that there are no friends, just a commonality of interests.  Try taking some more history as you really need it.

Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top
I stand corrected..
It's amazing how "a bad commonality of interests" can come back and bite you in the ass.
Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top

It's amazing how "a bad commonality of interests" can come back and bite you in the ass.

Now that is a very insightful comment!

Reply #19 from JoeUser Forums Top
Thanks.

Just wondering though.... didn't we, at one time, back to Shah, (as did most of the West to be sure)?
Wasn't Saddam our friend back when he was useful? I thought we supplied them with arms to use against Iran or something. I could be mistaken.
Didn't we back the formation of Israel usng Palestinian land?, -albeit it was the Balfour Declaration in 1917, pandering to the allies in order to gain their support in WWI, that actually started it all off.


Reply #20 from JoeUser Forums Top

Wasn't Saddam our friend back when he was useful? I thought we supplied them with arms to use against Iran or something. I could be mistaken.

No, we backed them with intel.  USSR did the weapons.

"A bad commonality of interests"  But at the time, it seemed good.  Prescience is not here yet.

Reply #21 from JoeUser Forums Top
Indeed, we did supply intel and the Russians did supply arms but we also facilitated the sale of chemical and biological weapons to Iraq as well as knowingly allow third parties to sell cluster bombs to Iraq when there was an embargo going on.

And yes at the it made sence to those involved. I believe one former CIA analyst commented something to the effect that it was horrible mistake but, "we have got it right now". And the British at the time thought that it was good idea too. Nobody wanted Iran to win a war with Iraq because it would be too destabilizing to that part of the world

You're right, prescience does not exist. And hindsite is always 20-20. but I remember when Hamas won the election in Palestine a short while ago and Condaleeza expressed surprise at that result. It didn't a genius to predict that Palestinians, when given a chance to vote, would pick the party who fixed their roads, provided aid and whatever else, rather than the corrupt officials they currently had. No hind-site of prescience required then. Now, if the analysts couldn't see that, and that's what those people are paid to do, what else haven't they been able to predict?








Reply #22 from JoeUser Forums Top
"Nobody wanted Iran to win a war with Iraq because it would be too destabilizing to that part of the world"
Ha!!
How ironic is that ?

Reply #23 from JoeUser Forums Top
I fully support Irans aspiration to master Nuclear Technology.

The Europeans were ready to make a deal that FULLY respects Irans right to enrich uranium until we chimed in with demands.

What the Iranians are doing is smart .. for they know that IF THEY YIELD an inch now ... the U.S will make further demands,
now tommorow next year ... doesnt matter.

Thats their line in the sand!!! and they arent doing anything illegal in the NPT

my advice to their leadership ... dont yield an inch ... saddams al samoud's were taken from him before the war began.
you will need EVERYTHING you have NOW and in the FUTURE
Reply #24 from JoeUser Forums Top
>So you'd like to see Israel a smoking glass crater?

Israel is not under threat.
It has 200-300 nuclear warheads
it also have SECOND STRIKE capability with class 5 dolphin submarines each carrying trident missiles with nuclear warheads

Israel has nothing to fear
from ANYONE mortal vis a vis war
Reply #25 from JoeUser Forums Top

>So you'd like to see Israel a smoking glass crater?

Israel is not under threat.
It has 200-300 nuclear warheads
it also have SECOND STRIKE capability with class 5 dolphin submarines each carrying trident missiles with nuclear warheads

Israel has nothing to fear
from ANYONE mortal vis a vis war


So you honestly think that will stop someone that considers it his "duty" to die in the service of his god? You're equating them to us. "We" wouldn't...they on the other hand "would"! Israel has a LOT to fear!