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WORLD WAR III

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Today the buzz is the planning to take military action against Iran's nuclear facilities if the diplomatic effort fails. It is reported that this planning includes the use of tactical nuclear weapons. That story said that most senior military officers are so opposed to the nuclear OPTION BEING ON THE TABLE; they may resign if Bush does take that option OFF the table. Those same stories say, so far, Bush has refused to remove the nuclear option from the military planning.

Although tactical nuclear weapons would most likely be the most effective way to penetrate the depth of the Iranian hardened nuclear facilities , the preemptive use of such weapons would most likely galvanize the Moslem World against the United States and result in even more danger then doing nothing about the Iranian nuclear program. Such action on our part could also create opposition from most of the non Moslem countries as evidenced by the comments of the British Foreign minister yesterday when he TOTALLY rejected any preemptive use of nuclear weapons to destroy nuclear facilities in Iran.

We should be trying to produce more effective non-nuclear bunker busting bombs should we need to try and destroy the underground nuclear facilities in Iran. Speaking as a former nuclear weapons office I can tell you that preemptive use of any such weapons would be the entry into WWIII and we would be the BAD GUYS. Only an attack on America could ever be a reason to use nuclear weapons and only then if that were a last resort.

Bush has better head the advice of the senior military before we turn the smoldering unrest in the Moslem World into an all out war.
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Reply #26 from JoeUser Forums Top
You keep bobbing & weaving so it's not easy to pick which ranting raving allegation to respond to in what order, but here goes:

As it turns out, that which Bush choose to declassify and release was wrong and what HE CHOOSE TO KEEP CLASSIFIED AND HIDDEN WAS CORRECT.

The key phrase here being "As it turns out," Gene. The undisclosed information did not "disprove" the disclosed information, it was just a minority opinion and Bush didn't "deceive" anyone, except for people like you who refuse to accept it for what it was. For cryin' out loud, Bush has admitted the intelligence was wrong, but he sure as hell didn't believe that at the time. Hindsight is always frickin' perfect and you can continue trying to squeeze another drop or two of blood out of this turnip if you wish, but you're gonna blow a fuse eventually (not that a few circuit breakers haven't tripped already). If I could always use my second shot, I'd be a great golfer, too. Now get over yourself, already.
Reply #27 from JoeUser Forums Top

I will match brain Cells with you any day and come our way ahead.

I see Gen Powell has joined the chorus of senior military that admit the way the Iraq War was conducted was wrong. Not enough troops just like Bush was told by the military and Ambassador Bremer. Bush is such an idiot. Only problem I see is we need to clean house- Bush, Cheney and Rummy need to go!


My IQ is 130, what's yours? 2? Bring it on bright-boy! Told you before...they AREN'T going ANYWHERE till Jan 2009.
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Reply #28 from JoeUser Forums Top

Do you just intentionally ignore the issue? The issue is that ONLY the Intelligence made available to Congress prior to voting on going to war was predicated on the argument we were in GRAVE danger from Saddam and his WMD. What Bush did is selectively release ONLY that Intelligence that supported the position that we were in GRAVE DANGER and thus had to act. There was a mass of other Intelligence that said much of the Intelligence that showed we are in GRAVE DANGER WAS NOT CORRECT. All that Intelligence was KEPT SECRET so that even the VERY FEW in Congress that may have been made aware of this non-supportive Intelligence were unable to discuss it even in Congress.

The case Bush has made is the Intelligence was WRONG. SOME of the Intelligence was WRONG. There was also a mass of Intelligence that was CORRECT but Bush kept that Intelligence HIDDEN because it contradicted his argument that we COULD NOT WAIT. Bush SELECTIVELY released the Intelligence and that meant the decision made by Congress to ALLOW Bush to go to WAR was made with ONLY A PART OF THE INTELLIGENCE THAT EXISTED!

The Intelligence Bush released has been shown as INCORRECT.

The Intelligence Bush KEPT HIDDEN WAS CORRECT.

The problem is that ALL THE INTELLIGENCE AVAILABLE WAS NOT CONSIDERED BEFOR THE DECISSION WAS MADE TO GO TO WAR.
Reply #29 from JoeUser Forums Top
This is so stupid, you couldn't get anything across Gene if you pass a truck over him. They guys brain is so locked up Houdini could not get out or in for that matter. What a waste.
Reply #30 from JoeUser Forums Top
CharlesC

They had NOTHING to deliver. You just do not want to consider anything that could be considered negative toward Bush. I got news for you; the VAST majority of Americans have had enough of GWB.

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Reply #31 from JoeUser Forums Top
'I know all my fanes on JoeUser will be excited about my new book. If you go to my Web Site you can get a FREE preview. My Web Site is: www.saveusanow.com."


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Reply #33 from JoeUser Forums Top
Bakerstreet

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Reply #34 from JoeUser Forums Top
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