Bush is Violating the Constitution

Reply #1 March 31, 2006 12:52 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

Hello Col.

I live in New Mexico, close to the Mexican/US border. Every day I went to work, I had to pass through a border checkpoint. Don't think it was at the border, now, a hundred miles inside the border on I-25. Was I a citizen? Where was I coming from? Where was I going? Common and easily enough answered questions. Everday for five years. The laws are being enforced. We have very long, desolate borders. We are spending billions of dollars in another desert a long way away from our own borders, ostensibly to protect us. At the same time there are a ton of jobs currently being done by illegal immigrants. No one I know wants to do these jobs. Picking chilis, cotton, pulling up onions. Oh yeah, a lot of applicants.

I think our energy and our money should be better invested in discovering a way to address the realities of life along the border.

Be well.

Reply #2 March 31, 2006 1:15 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

This is by far the stupidest article you have written yet Col. Let me ask you this, can you tell me another name for police or federal agents or border patrol? Here's the answer, Law Enforcement Officers.

Do you also believe Bush is responsible for every person who drives over the speed limit, or does not use a seat belt, or does not have a licence, or does not file their tax return, or does prostitution, or sells drugs, or murders, j-walks, or steals, etc?

Do you know what all these things have in common? There is a law that makes every one of them illegal and none of those laws are fully enforced or have eliminated or diminished any of them. That would mean that every President we've had since the Constitution was made and every law made afterwards has "VIOLATED" the Constitution.

What is most ridiculous about you and this article is that you B_TCHED (cause there is no other better way to say it) about him not doing anything about the immigration problem and now that he is doing something about it you are complaining that he didn't need to do any changes.

Reply #3 March 31, 2006 1:33 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

today I misspelled a simple word, AND IT'S ALL BUSHES FAULT!!!!!!!!!!

Reply #4 March 31, 2006 1:47 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

DJBandit

We are talking about some of the MOST BASIC laws of our country. The tax laws and laws to protect our borders. Without enforcing these laws we have very little as a society. Who ever heard of a country that did not enforce its borders and tax laws?

These are the responsibility of Bush. The federal agencies that actually enforce these laws report directly to Bush. Bush is the one that requests the funding from Congress to insure these are the resources with which to enforce the laws. Border Guards, IRS agents etc. He is the one responsible to ensure our laws are enforces so says the Constitution. With 20 Million illegal in this country it is clear he is NOT enforcing our laws. He also has not requested the necessary money in the budget to hire the added border Guards he claims are needed to secure the Border WHY? This is the MOST basic responsibility of the President which Bush has ignored!

Reply #5 March 31, 2006 1:49 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

Nobody "picks" cotton anymore, just an FYI. As for the other jobs, I have ALWAYS been more than willing and I know other Americans just as willing.

As far as border enforcement, I think you are VASTLY misinformed. A checkpoint 25 miles in does no good. And I am hearing multiple credible firsthand accounts that places like Nuevo Laredo are fast becoming war zones.

I AGREE with a good guest worker program, frankly. Part of the problem we have now is that many of the illegals remain in the US, when they might otherwise return home, but they stand a greater chance of being apprehended RETURNING to Mexico than they do coming FROM Mexico. If we tracked them and gave them a good means to come across and work for a set period of time, we wouldn't have as many problems as we now do.

Reply #6 March 31, 2006 1:52 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

How about using Prisoners to pick the crops. Let them help pay for their keep. WE are not talking about spelling words we are talking about the President violating the Constitution!

Reply #7 March 31, 2006 2:01 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

How about using Prisoners to pick the crops. Let them help pay for their keep.

So, let me get this straight, Col: You have no problem with us GIVING the taxpayers' money to countries like Mexico, but you have a problem with their citizens coming across the border to WORK to support themselves? You are making less and less sense all the time.

Maybe if you would think these issues through instead of operating on the presumption that "Bush is wrong 100% of the time", you'd amount to more than just being JU's resident village idiot.

Reply #8 March 31, 2006 2:06 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

How about using Prisoners to pick the crops. Let them help pay for their keep. WE are not talking about spelling words we are talking about the President violating the Constitution!

You talking stupidity. Never has a President been accused of violating the Constitution for not enforcing a law. Everyone knows that the responsible ones are the police, border patrol, FBI, etc. So what if they report directly back to the President, it's not like they are saying " we can't catch them, there are too many". You know yourself that is total BS, as far as the President is concerned they are doing everything they can to stop the illegal imigrations but it's not enough. Stop the stupidity already, your articles are getting more and more ignorant as you run out of things to complain about Bush.

Reply #9 March 31, 2006 2:16 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

#6 by COL Gene Friday, March 31, 2006

How about using Prisoners to pick the crops. Let them help pay for their keep. WE are not talking about spelling words we are talking about the President violating the Constitution!

no we are talking about how you manage to blame bush for everything that happens in the entire planet, hence my last 5 comments on your blogs.

Reply #10 March 31, 2006 2:30 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

mmm... i want to eat vegetables picked by bitter lifers with nothing to lose. Nothing like a rusty needle in your fresh fruit to get the day started right.

I wonder, should all the Presidents before Bush have been impeached, too, considering we've always had this problem?

Reply #11 March 31, 2006 2:31 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

The repetitive inanity of your articles is bizarre, Gene.

Reply #12 March 31, 2006 2:53 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

mmm... i want to eat vegetables picked by bitter lifers with nothing to lose. Nothing like a rusty needle in your fresh fruit to get the day started right. I wonder, should all the Presidents before Bush have been impeached, too, considering we've always had this problem?

I appreciate your ability to say all that without using colorful metaphors.

This post (original post, that is) and so many previous posts by the author are perfect proof that we need an ignore user function more than ever. I know, I know, if I don't want to read this crap, I shouldn't click it (and I very rarely do), but I'd really prefer that it didn't show up at all in my sidebar when surfing JU.

Reply #13 March 31, 2006 3:12 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

McLeash: Nobody "picks" cotton anymore, just an FYI. As for the other jobs, I have ALWAYS been more than willing and I know other Americans just as willing.

Sodaiho: Well, I see people doing just that in the fields along the Rio Grande every season.

McLeash: As far as border enforcement, I think you are VASTLY misinformed. A checkpoint 25 miles in does no good. And I am hearing multiple credible firsthand accounts that places like Nuevo Laredo are fast becoming war zones.

Sodaiho: Misinformed? I'll tell that to the Border Patrol Officer the next time I go through the checkpoint. As to effectiveness: there are tons of busses in New Mexico carting illegals back across the border from all over the inside of this state. I agree with you that the money to operate these checkpoints might be better spent closer to the actual border.

McLeash: I AGREE with a good guest worker program, frankly. Part of the problem we have now is that many of the illegals remain in the US, when they might otherwise return home, but they stand a greater chance of being apprehended RETURNING to Mexico than they do coming FROM Mexico. If we tracked them and gave them a good means to come across and work for a set period of time, we wouldn't have as many problems as we now do.

Sodaiho: Yeppers. I agree with you wholeheartedly.

Be well.

Reply #14 March 31, 2006 3:17 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

maybe we should send Bush down to the mexican border with a couple of pistols and the order to shoot to kill. Would that be ok, Col?

Oh, you would then complain about Bush using firearms on humans....

Reply #15 March 31, 2006 3:25 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

#14 by MythicalMino Friday, March 31, 2006

Oh, you would then complain about Bush using firearms on human

and complain about how fiscally irresponsible it is to waste taxpayer money shooting just one person per round@!!!!

Reply #16 March 31, 2006 3:57 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

Hey it could be a re-match between Kerry and Bush since both like to hunt?

Sodaiho, I did my fair share of toppin.

Prisoners in the field that is absurd. I'm with ya Baker. How about them potholes?

Reply #17 March 31, 2006 4:13 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

How is the enforcement of our tax and immigration laws unimportant?

The agencies that are responsible have all said they DO NOT have the human resources to enforce the law. That is the responsibility of the President to request the resources when he prepares his budget and to inform Congress that he does not have the required resources. What Bush has done is NOTHING.

When did I ever say I we should send our tax dollars to Mexico? What we have are Business interests who want cheep labor many of whom do not pay payroll taxes supporting this illegal immigration. We should fine the hell out of employers that hire illegal workers and it would stop. This is just another issue where Bush is not in agreement with the VAST MAJORITY of Americans so business that supports him can make more money. In the mean time these illegal workers and their families drive down wages, fail to pay taxes and drive the cost of health care, education and law enforcement. This is a VERY BIG DEAL. Add the fact that anyone can come into our country because we do NOT control of our borders, and we have a disaster in the making that Bush has ignored. It is time for Congress to Force Bush to act!

Reply #18 March 31, 2006 4:17 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

Yeah, Gene

Fine the employers big time and watch the price of your beans sky rocket. Oh wait that'd Bushes fault.

Get in your car drive outside of the city and go see what a fricken farm looks like. Gene you from Tuttle by chance?

Reply #19 March 31, 2006 4:27 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

Clinton didn't do anything to stop it either. Neither did anyone else, thus we still have the problem. I'm betting you weren't ranting about Clinton needing to be impeached because of it, though.

Reply #20 March 31, 2006 4:57 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

I just read a super-secret memo that said Bush was responsible for the all of the past President's failures to address this problem. It stated that he used blackmail and threats against them and even before he was born his spirit was possessing Presidents and causing them to ignore these issues.

Reply #21 March 31, 2006 5:05 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

I agree. Clinton did not act. However, Bush is president now and he is the one that must act today. That is why I said lets use prison labor to harvest the crops. The wages the growers pay the illegal workers would reimburse the cost of the prisons. That is a way to fill the need for farm labor without illegal aliens. The cost to the growers could remain the same as they now pay the illegal workers and our food cost would NOT increase and our taxes for supporting prison operations would drop! Sounds like a win win for everyone except the illegal workers.

Reply #22 March 31, 2006 5:22 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

COL,

Know of any prisions near farms? Here in Colorado most of them are a ways away from farms where manual labor is utilized. Although you present an new solution I haven't seen before the feasibility of using prisoners isn't there. To organize such networks with local farmers would be very difficult. The other piece is that these illegal immigrants work harder than any other's on the job. Forced labor doesn't work. What would they do outside of July-Oct? Need some kind of incentive for this to be a win win scenario.

And I apologize for my outburst above. I was out of line.

Reply #23 March 31, 2006 5:42 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

lol. Someone should write a blog about the Col endorsing slave labor. He's all for international standards of human rights until he wants to establish new and improved work camps...

He acknoledges that Bush isn't any more culpable for this than any other president, but we should treat Bush more harshly... because the Col is deranged and insists that Bush is evil.

I got my mind right, Boss! Givin' up, Boss!

Reply #24 March 31, 2006 6:20 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

But Baker he voted for it before he voted against it.

Reply #25 March 31, 2006 8:17 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

here are a few Bush titles for you gene.

Bush responsible for aids epidemic in africa!!!!!!!.

Bush not ticketing enough speeders!!!!!

Bush, direct cause of lack of oxygen due to his fast breathing!!!

Bush held responsible for flat tires by not giving enough money for road repair!!!!