Attack/Defense Bonus Calculation & Ship Auto Update suggestions

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Because of the rounding down, fractional Attack/Defense bonus is not very useful in the early game where you only have low Attack/Defense ships. For example, early in the game, I mine one military resource that gives my civilization 15% Attack/Defense bonus. It is useless for my tiny, small & medium ships with less than 7 Attack/Defense value.

Suggestion 1: Increase all Attack, Defense and Hit Point value in the game by a factor of 10.

Instead of having a fighter with 1 Attack & 10 Hit Points, we will have fighter with 10 Attack & 100 Hit Points. The effect on game balance is the same, but the fractional Attack/Defense bonus does make a small difference now.

Suggestion 2: As we research better weapon/defense technologies (i.e. Laser Mk I to Laser Mk II), keep the base weapon size the same but increase the damage slightly. For example, Laser Mk I will do 10 damage & Laser Mk II will do 12 damage with the same size. This way we can have the Ship Auto Update features. We just need to design a ship model with Laser and any newly built ship with this model will have the latest Laser installed. The defense technology should work the same way. Of course, if we got better Miniaturization technology or different weapon/defense type, then we have to design a new ship model to take advantage of these.

The ship upgrade function could have two options with different costs: (1) Upgrade to the latest technology only; or (2) Upgrade to a new ship model. An alternative would be to limit the ship upgrade function to Option (1) only.
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Reply #1 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Good goat thinking. Having attack and defense bonuses is pretty much a waste in the early to mid game the way things are setup now.
Reply #2 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Instead of having a fighter with 1 Attack & 10 Hit Points, we will have fighter with 10 Attack & 100 Hit Points. The effect on game balance is the same


Not quite true. The attack value is a roll between your maximum value- defense (effective) - square root defense (weak)- square root defense (weak)

1 will roll 1 or 0. 10 will roll anything between 10 and 0. So, blind chance comes into it, and when you have ships with over a hundred attack, you don't wish for the effectiveness to be reduced by a possible factor of 10, if they score lower (more likely a lower score with higher attack)
It does average out, but try explaining that to the dreadnaught captain owned by two small fighters.

I do however agree on the point that rounding down makes it work less. Perhaps a system of diminishing return bonuses? say 50% at 2 attack, working down to the regular 15% at seven, when it would normally take effect?
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Reply #3 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Oh thats so not cool. Damn timeout
Reply #4 from GalCiv2 Forums Top

Not quite true. The attack value is a roll between your maximum value- defense (effective) - square root defense (weak)- square root defense (weak)


Ok, I forgot about the square root defense, which makes the mismatched defense weaker as we scale up the value. For mismatched defense, it is 100% effective at value 1, 32% effective at value 10, and only 10% effective at value 100. Some re-balancing may be required.

I think this would make it more strategically important to have matching defense, which is not a bad thing. An armored dreadnaught captain should be worried facing missile carrying fighters.