Anti_semitic left

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ANTI-SEMITISM FROM THE LEFT A NEW SLANT ON THE "SELF NAMED CHAMPIONS OF JUSTICE"

Anti-Semitism on the Left is generally not spoken about, but it's real and appears to be growing. For those inclined, it's easy to slip from denunciations' of Israeli policy - many on the Left, are quite vocal on occasion in opposing Israeli policies and actions - to out-and-out anti-Semitism.

It's often difficult to locate that fine line. Jew-haters often can hide their true feelings and arguments inside broadsides against Israeli policy, but those opposed vehemently to certain Israeli policies.

Certainly, the powerful American Israel Public Affairs Committee has no problem: anybody writing anything in opposition to Israeli policies is seldom rightly smeared with the "anti-Semitic" or "Jew-hater" brush; if they happen to be Jewish, they are labeled "self-hating Jew" While if a conservative emulated the same behaviors they would be tared, feathered and run of of politics.
But since the Elite Media is so heavily slanted to the left and slurs go unreported as long as it's a lefty doing the slurring.

How can we forget the words of another champion of free speech and justice Hillary Clinton calling someone that offended her a "JEW BASTARD" just a few months ago. Just more examples of how the left is filled with hypocrites and racists.

We seem to have forgotten it was the left that stood in the way of the civil rights acts for so many years and it was the right that finally pushed the act through into law.

The left disinformation machine, aided and abetted by the MSM is a potent force, they completely re-write history and somehow make the right into the racist.
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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top
Got a link for the Clinton thing? I would like to see the context of that.

I think people blur being anti-Israel and anti-Jew, to be fair. You can oppose Israel and not be anti-semitic, and even a lot of Jews don't agree with Israels behavior many times.

I do think that such politics mixed with a disdain for organized religion can synthesize into something very much like anti-semitism, but you'll never get anyone to admit it. I think most people on the Left that you'd characterize as anti-semitic hate fundamentalist, white Christians just as much.

The problem is the hate, really, not necessarily who they hate. There's hate on both sides to be sure, but the Left in America have the perspective that their world is quickly going down the toilet, so they are getting more angry and desperate all the time.
Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top
but the Left in America have the perspective that their world is quickly going down the toilet, so they are getting more angry and desperate all the time.
I'm on the left and don't sense the desperation.
Ant-semetism applies to Palestinians and Palestinian Jews. The criticism that prevails concerning Israel is that it is a nation of European and American jews, not Semites.
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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top
1 by BakerStreet
Thursday, March 23, 2006


Got a link for the Clinton thing? I would like to see the context of that.


had it a few months ago baker, lost now.

I think people blur being anti-Israel and anti-Jew, to be fair. You can oppose Israel and not be anti-Semitic, and even a lot of Jews don't agree with Israels behavior many times


yeh I think the line gets blurred too baker, but have no doubt SOME of the left is virulently anti Semitic.
Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top
#2 by stevendedalus
Thursday, March 23, 2006


Ant-semetism applies to Palestinians and Palestinian Jews.


picky picky steven, really. I am a turkish jew that makes me a semite too.
Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top
We seem to have forgotten it was the left that stood in the way of the civil rights acts for so many years and it was the right that finally pushed the act through into law.


i'd love to see the names of those on the left (not dixiecrats like thrurmond whose 'southern strategy' proved an open invitation for his fellow racists--none of whom had any love for jews--to switch parties)who worked against passage of civil rights legislation. also keep in mind that republicans such as eisenhower, dirkson, rockerfeller, scranton, etc. would very likely be considered looney lefties today (hell drmiler claims rick santorum aint a true republican).
Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top

Got a link for the Clinton thing? I would like to see the context of that.

It was actually 1974, and you can find it on the CNN archives.  The context was that she was angry.  She denies now that she said it, but unfortunately for her, there were too many witnesses to it, and miraculously, many of them are still alive.

Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top

i'd love to see the names of those on the left (not dixiecrats like thrurmond whose 'southern strategy' proved an open invitation for his fellow racists--none of whom had any love for jews--to switch parties)who worked against passage of civil rights legislation

Here is 2 off the top of my head.  Robert Byrd, and Al Gore.

How about another couple.  Wallace and Fulbright.  How about another. Orval Faubus. And.....

What the hell, you do your own leg work.

Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top
have no doubt SOME of the left is virulently anti Semitic


I have no doubt that SOME of the right is virulently anti-semitic too.
Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top
eisenhower, dirkson, rockerfeller
and the Jew from NY Senator Javits.

I have no doubt that SOME of the right is virulently anti-semitic too.
The main reason they claim not to be is that they[Christian RIght] need the existence of Israel and Jerusalem for the Judgment Day, which is bad news for the Semites!
Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top
How about another. Orval Faubus


that would be states rightist faubus who (altho he did desegregate public transportation in arkansas in the mid-50s) also forced eisenhower to send federal troops to little rock to enforce brown vs bd of ed? yup a true liberal.

william fulbright dixiecrat. liberal? anti-war maybe but...

elder senator gore dixiecrat. byrd dixiecrat

i don't suppose you're referring to henry wallace who was a liberal as well as the progressive party candidate for president (coretta scott campaigned for him btw).

i'm guessing you're tryin to pass ol george 'segrah-gay-shun foh-evah' wallace off as a liberal. not that he--nor lurleen--coulda voted for or against the civil rights act.

you forgot such other liberal standard bearers as ross barnett, the asshole who handed out axe handles at his chickenshack and an assortment of others who very likely were checkin under their bed to see if ronald 'the red' reagan was lurkin there.

you're really sad.
Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top

i'd love to see the names of those on the left

that would be states rightist faubus who (altho he did desegregate public transportation in arkansas in the mid-50s) also forced eisenhower to send federal troops to little rock to enforce brown vs bd of ed? yup a true liberal.

william fulbright dixiecrat. liberal? anti-war maybe but...

elder senator gore dixiecrat. byrd dixiecrat

You did not say liberal, you said left.  What you call a liberal and I call a liberal may be 2 different things, but they are on the left.  You can now try to bob and weave (which you are doing very poorly), but you asked, and I supplied.

You really are sad.  When faced with the proof, you have to run and hide and try to excuse and reclassify.  Face it, you accuse me of not admiting when I am wrong, even when faced with links to that very fact (which you then never respond to), but when you are proven wrong, you cant say you are wrong.  YOu are sad, very sad, tired as well. You are the best thing for conservatives, and the worst thing for liberals.  An arrogant liar that cannot admit when they are wrong.

I gave you a handful, you might want to be honest and go dig up the rest for yourself and post a mea culpa.

Nah!  YOu never have, and you never will.

Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
I have no doubt that SOME of the right is virulently anti-semitic too.

They're just not allowed to be as open about it as Jesse "Hymietown" Jackson and his ilk.
Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top
I don't have a link as such, but it was said by Hillary Clinton to political operative Paul Fray. This was revealed in "State of a Union: Inside the Complex Marriage of Bill and Hillary Clinton" and has been verified by Paul Fray and three witnesses.

According to PBS's website, Paul Fray was best man at the Clintons' wedding.
Reply #14 from JoeUser Forums Top

Jew-haters often can hide their true feelings and arguments inside broadsides against Israeli policy


I have seen many on the left (and some on the nationalist right) denounce Israel for actions that any other state can pursue without being criticised. In fact the Palestinians do worse things on a daily basis.

Is such a denouncement anti-Semitic?

The left say no, I think.

But what if the KKK makes the case that blacks who commit crimes should be lynched? After all, they are not racist, merely opposed to crime.

Why are so many people demonstrating against Israel killing Arabs? And why are so very few of these people demonstrating against the Arab genocide against blacks in Sudan (or Arab terrorist attacks against Jews in Israel and elsewhere)? It's not Anti-Semitism, of course. The protesters merely choose their battles. And they always, always fight the Jews. It's pure coincidence.

When the Nazis made their case against Jewish bankers, they were probably just making a case against evil capitalist liberals (in the original sense of the word), not against Jews. Or were they?

It has become difficult.
Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top
10 by kingbee
Thursday, March 23, 2006


yup a true liberal


no where in my article did I say "liberal" I said from the left that means democrats.
Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top
#15 by Leauki
Thursday, March 23, 2006


have seen many on the left (and some on the nationalist right) denounce Israel for actions that any other state can pursue without being criticised. In fact the Palestinians do worse things on a daily basis.

Is such a denouncement anti-Semitic?

The left say no, I think.

But what if the KKK makes the case that blacks who commit crimes should be lynched? After all, they are not racist, merely opposed to crime.


this falls under the "only whites can be racists"
Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top
13 by singrdave
Thursday, March 23, 2006


They're just not allowed to be as open about it as Jesse "Hymietown" Jackson and his ilk.


let us not forget jacksons pronouncement that the new name for the most populated city in america is "JEW YORK CITY"
Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top
10 by kingbee
Thursday, March 23, 2006


yup a true liberal


no where in my article did I say "liberal" I said from the left that means democrats.


Yeah kb and a "dixiecrat" is STILL a democrat no matter "how" you try and spin it.
Reply #19 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply By: drmilerPosted: Friday, March 24, 200610 by kingbee Thursday, March 23, 2006 yup a true liberalno where in my article did I say "liberal" I said from the left that means democrats.Yeah kb and a "dixiecrat" is STILL a democrat no matter "how" you try and spin it.


soon it will be only if there first names start with a vowel and they were born under the sign of gemini, on a tuesday, in a rain storm, at 4:23 am in alaska. heh
Reply #20 from JoeUser Forums Top

soon it will be only if there first names start with a vowel and they were born under the sign of gemini, on a tuesday, in a rain storm, at 4:23 am in alaska. heh

I thought it was born in poughkipsee?

Reply #21 from JoeUser Forums Top
Yeah kb and a "dixiecrat" is STILL a democrat no matter "how" you try and spin it.


Uh--actually they aren't. Dixiecrats broke off from the democratic party for the 1948 election. Saying that a dixiecrat is a democrat is like saying that Americans are British no matter how you spin it.
Reply #22 from JoeUser Forums Top

Uh--actually they aren't. Dixiecrats broke off from the democratic party for the 1948 election. Saying that a dixiecrat is a democrat is like saying that Americans are British no matter how you spin it.

IN the context that kb was using it, yes they are.  He was calling any southern democrat, a dixiecrat.

Reply #23 from JoeUser Forums Top
You did not say liberal, you said left


actually mm said left; it was your list that caused me to substitute liberal because it was an impossible stretch to pronounce any of em (henry wallace excepted) as 'leftists'.

you're the one bobbing and weaving (as is mm and the dumber dr now) by trying to equate democrats--especially southern democrats of that era--with leftists or even 'on the left'.
Reply #24 from JoeUser Forums Top
dr guy you are the one who occasionally tries to portray yourself as a conservative rather than a republican are you not? either it works for everyone as it works for you or...
Reply #25 from JoeUser Forums Top
I gave you a handful,


you gave me nothing germane. i'm still waiting for some leftists who resisted civil rights legislation.