Weapons OF Mass Destruction Found In Iraq!!! Really!!!

there's one slight problem tho...

Over the past 3 years, The "WMD" debate has raged on. Before the war, I doubted the administration's claims (as did 160 or so congressmen). I was told by more than one congressional staffer "you don't know...they have evidence we haven't seen that PROVES everything" before we invaded Iraq.

After the invasion, as our occupation commenced, I was told "we will find them." Then, after a couple of years finally the belated admissions by the President and other true believers in Washington that there were no WMD's in Iraq as previously reported. The WMD arguement never held much water to anyone who engages in critical thinking. It only served the overly nationalistic audience the Bush administration was trying to enrage. It just didn't stand to logic that all these things were going on when only months before 9/11 all reports suggested sanctions and "boxing Saddam in" was very effective in eliminating any threat from Iraq. It was obvious to someone who had watched the debate since 1990 that the "neocons" pushed on everyone to the point that making boisterous anti-saddam speeches were in vogue to even the most liberal politician in the 1990's. Iraq became a way any politician could "look tough" while offending no one who mattered, or voted.

But in right wing circles, where pundits come to play and spin, there was another explanation to what happened to the WMD's.

They went to Syria. Saddam boxed em all up before we came and sent truckloads of weapons undetected over the Syrian border. This is what pundits on the right whisper to each other when hearing disturbing news that there were no WMD's in Iraq. Their explanation allows them to not admit anything.

There's only one problem with that position. !st off, does anyone think Syria wants to be invaded for "holding some stuff" for Saddam Hussein? Syria may be a country who doesn't like us, but they're not stupid. Plus, we did indeed find WMD's in Iraq shortly after the occupation began. So none of the weapons were moved. How do I know? Here's how...

I spoke to a former Marine, Dustin Harmer. Dustin served with an engineering support division that went out and actually dug up land where reports said the WMD's would be found. And in many cases, they were.

One slight problem...they all had a stamp on them...each and every tube full of Ricin, Mustard Gas and all those nasty things everyone has been talkin bout for years now. The stamp was simple, but incriminating. They were all property of the USA.

As Dustin put it, "We found em all over the place. But every time, they had US markings on them and we were told that we saw nothing here."

He also explained that most of em were not actually usable. Most of the WMD's found were simply too old to be used. They had been essentially "thrown away" by the Iraqi leaders people.

How did we find them? From the U.N. reports that Saddam provided. These documents showed how the old weapons, provided by the USA were disposed of when they became too old to use. Remember those papers? The literal thousands of pages that our administration was somehow able to read in under 12 hours and conclusively determine that they were a lie. Hmmmmmmm...

Now, maybe it seems that those documents recording the WMD's, which were used to find them (by our troops post invasion instead of by inspectors in leiu of an invasion) were more accurate than our administration wanted anyone to believe pre-war.

Fact is that the only weapons Saddam had were the ones that Donald Rumsfeld himself facilitated in the 1980's when Iraq was fighting Iran.

No weapons were sent to Syria. Think about it. We had Iraq (and Syria) under satellite surveillence for a very long time before we invaded. We had photos of trucks all over Iraq and claimed we knew what every one contained inside. Yet, no one has any pictures of anything crossing the baren desert (which would kind of stand out, don't ya think?) Let alone bunches of trucks caravanning to Syria full of WMD's. The reason for that is that it never happened, despite what a bunch of delusional neocon followers want to believe.

Of course, it's obvious that no amount of evidence will ever convince some to publicly change their mind. But most of us know the truth. And with more eyewitness accounts like this about what really happened over there, even more will know.
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Reply #1 Top

WOW.  You really are into black helicopters!

I had a friend too who served over there.  And he dug up some weapons too.  All with Irani markings on them!  Uh, huh!  Yep! It is true!  I swear it!

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by the way,,,dustin harmer is not my friend,,,i interviewed him and had no idea he was going to tell me that....he currently works in aberdeen testing military equipment...again,,,feel free to fact check
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Stop trolling? It's been a long time since I have read a more condescending piece of filth article as this one. With this one article, you dismiss anyone who might dare think differently than yourself as completely and totally mindless.

Your little tyrade here (conveniently) forgets a few things. 1 major one would be that Hussein himself CLAIMED to have WMD. UNCSOM was only there to verify what Hussein claimed to have. If he claimed to have no WMD then the UNSCOM inspectors would have no authority to look for them.

Of course, it's obvious that no amount of evidence will ever convince some to publicly change their mind. But most of us know the truth....


This line reminds me of all the people who look down their noses at anyone foolish enough to still believe Neal Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin and others ever walked on the moon. Write more articles, tell us how Flight 93 was never brought down by a few passengers. "This new learning fascinates me, explain again how sheeps bladders can be employed to prevent earthquakes."
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excuse me trollmaster???? talk about condescending? i am not a conspiracy theorist,,,nor is there anything that suggests that,,,your "association" arguement is NONSENSE.

maybe it's time to admit you were fooled...it's ok,,,we'll understand.

my article is based on facts nad 1st hand interviews...i name my source...go fact check it,,,then get back to me.
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yeah,,but guy,,,i identified my source,,,you can feel free to fact check me....or stop trolling

Mine is Master Seargeant Curtis D. "Dwight" Yokum.  SO I have identified mine as well.  Now you want to pit your pissant against my E8?

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excuse me trollmaster???? talk about condescending?

Yep.  He is, and you just lost all credibility.  You started the flame war, now eat it.  It is apparent since you started the name calling that you are lying and trying to CYA with your trolling.

And I just rammed an ungreased rod up your butt on Baker's thread.  Apparently you are failing Highschool, have never even passed basic math, or english comprehension, and still dont know what the hell you are talking about.

Reply #8 Top
Sean

Greenpeace has also found WMD in Iraq: Link


But no body is reporting it. Why?

The finding of 6.6 pounds of Yellow Cake in this village alone is killing the locals. This is 6.6 pounds (which in radiation active terms, truck loads) that was found, let alone what else was looted. The Iraqi government was banned from having any nuclear program and none of this material appears in the 5,000 page document that was submitted by the Saddam Goverernment to the UN prior to the invasion.

This material also is not on the WMD listing provided by Iraq at the end of the first Gulf War.


Where did they get it?
Reply #10 Top

keep talkin guy,,,i mean,,,keep trollin,,,LMFAO

You have not addressed a single point.  That is trolling.  We have addressed every point.  That is debating.  learn,Learn the difference.  be, Be the difference.  Try using the grey cells for something other than huffing your favorite inhalant.  That is apparently the only thing you are getting an A in.

Reply #11 Top
Sean, this site is one of the few holdouts of bushie lovers. If ya ever wonder who in god's name still supports the neocon crooks and liars, you'll find em here on joeuser. Hopeless bunch of gullible fools, for sure.
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We have addressed every point


i'm not sure to whom you're referring as 'we'. you certainly didn't address anything.

And I just rammed an ungreased rod up your butt


didn't realize you were such a stud.
Reply #13 Top
Sean Conners, a.k.a. SConn1...

I find it interesting that you decided to insult posters instead of addressing the points.

I would have called that trolling, but then its your own blog. Whatever.

About the WMD, there were MANY people in Iraq. It's easy to find someone who would tell all to media about it, and if it's everywhere like you said, there's more chances for this guy to see it and tell all.
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They went to Syria. Saddam boxed em all up before we came and sent truckloads of weapons undetected over the Syrian border. This is what pundits on the right whisper to each other when hearing disturbing news that there were no WMD's in Iraq. Their explanation allows them to not admit anything.


I don't know which right-wingers you talked to, but I would be curious to know where the WMDs are. We know Saddam had them, we know the US did not find them. So where are they?



There's only one problem with that position. !st off, does anyone think Syria wants to be invaded for "holding some stuff" for Saddam Hussein? Syria may be a country who doesn't like us, but they're not stupid.


Does Syria have reason to believe that liberals would support an invasion? Do we start UN proceedings now and invade in 12 years?
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One slight problem...they all had a stamp on them...each and every tube full of Ricin, Mustard Gas and all those nasty things everyone has been talkin bout for years now. The stamp was simple, but incriminating. They were all property of the USA.


So these WMDs exist and don't exist. Saddam had none and the US found them. And the US didn't use them to prove that Saddam had them because the US sold them to Saddam. And even though the US sold them to Saddam, Bush had to lie about them because nobody knew Saddam had them.

Add all that to the fact that the US was not actually involved in arms deals with Saddam (he bought his weapons from Russia, China, and France), and the story becomes even more confusing.

Can you explain?
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So then according to "you", General Sada (who was Saddam's #2 man) doesn't know what he's talking about when he says the WMD's went to Syria?

Link
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What I find interesting in this fantastic story is that Dustin Hammer is saying things that, if true, would certainly be Top Secret. I'm no military expert but this just doesn't seem like the kind of news our military would allow anyone to tell.
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I think the funniest thing here is that if the US "did" give Saddam WMD as believed in this article, then why would the US invade Iraq to find them and then cover them up and say they found nothing? Does that make sense to anyone?

Why would I plant a gun, registered to me, on a guy I hate and then tell the police he has a gun but then I would find it and say I guess he didn't have anything atfer all?

And you say you are not a conspiracy theorist?
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,,,trolling,,,guy,,,by making your 1st line of your 1st post a personal attack on my site,,,was trolling.

2nd off,,,agree or disagree with me,,,i could care less...but don't tell me i don't have a source that i accurately reported on, when i did,,,and you didn't check anything out....when i asked you to,,,you came back by insulting me by forcing your homoerotic fantasies on me....that's trolling.

all i did was write an article,,,i never attacked you...it's sorry that you can't debate anything without just being a hate monger and attack hack.

have a nice day guy,,,i'm thru w/ you and your b.s. ... i don't feed hate whenever it rears it's ugly head.

obviously, you impress yourself...i hope that provides for a wonderful life for ya.

as far as insulting me, my backround, education, etc....that is what exposes your total lack of credibility...and i don't need to bother with your ass anymore.
Reply #20 Top

i'm not sure to whom you're referring as 'we'. you certainly didn't address anything.

Do you want me to cut and paste Ted's response?

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have a nice day guy,,,i'm thru w/ you and your b.s. ... i don't feed hate whenever it rears it's ugly head.

Through with me, or your lies.  FACT: Russia supplied Iraq, not the US.  We gave them Intel during the Iran Iraq war.  FACT:  My source, easily googliable out ranks yours. FACT:  You have none.

Finally, no one is hating anyone here.  As far as I can tell.  So my Very first statement (notice the smiley) was not an attack on you or your site, but on the content of your article.  And if your articles cannot take criticism, I suggest you make the audience yourself so you dont have to worry about any.

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for the record,,,here's a list of American companies that assisted with WMD to Iraq...

List of American firms that assisted Iraq¹s WMD program
A = nuclear; K = chemical; B = biological; R = rockets (missiles)

1. Honeywell (R,K)
2. Spektra Physics (K)
3. Semetex (R)
4. TI Coating (A,K)
5. UNISYS (A,K)
6. Sperry Corp. (R,K)
7. Tektronix (R,A)
8. Rockwell (K)
9. Leybold Vacuum Systems (A)
10. Finnigan-MAT-US (A)
11. Hewlett Packard (A.R,K)
12. Dupont (A)
13. Eastman Kodak (R)
14. American Type Culture Collection (B)
15. Alcolac International (C)
16. Consarc (A)
17. Carl Zeis -U.Ss (K)
18. Cerberus (LTD) (A)
19. Electronic Assiciates (R)
20. International Computer Systems
21. Bechtel (K)
22. EZ Logic Data Systems,Inc. (R)
23. Canberra Industries Inc. (A)
24. Axel Electronics Inc. (A)

**From the Research Unit for Political Economy, Bombay, India
http://www.rupe-india.org/
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oh geez,,,let's not get into the rumsfeld - hussein meetings....ok,,,here ya go ,,,

First brought to the attention of the House of Commons by Labour MP Peter Kilfoyle on 26 February 2003, the Riegle Report details the findings of Senate hearings chaired by Senator Donald Riegle in 1994. The report confirms that when US Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld was a member of the President’s General Advisory Committee on Arms Control in the 1980s, biological materials were being exported to Iraq under licence from the US Department of Commerce. These included botulinum toxin and anthrax, later identified as major components in the Iraqi biological warfare programme.

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First brought to the attention of the House of Commons by Labour MP Peter Kilfoyle on 26 February 2003, the Riegle Report details the findings of Senate hearings chaired by Senator Donald Riegle in 1994. The report confirms that when US Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld was a member of the President’s General Advisory Committee on Arms Control in the 1980s, biological materials were being exported to Iraq under licence from the US Department of Commerce. These included botulinum toxin and anthrax, later identified as major components in the Iraqi biological warfare programme.

Ah yes, the now discredited downing street memos.  Lame, very lame.