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Why Won't Liberals Do Business With the "Religion of Peace"?

Why Won't Liberals Do Business With the "Religion of Peace"?

The Dubai ports deal has pointed out an amazing inconsistency among the left. Maybe they should have a little powwow and get their stories straight rather than rely on talking points to guide them in policy making decisions.

You see, since September 12, 2001, the liberals among us have insisted that Islam is a "religion of peace", and that we shouldn't consider terrorist extremists as representatives of Islam. Over the last couple of years they've taken it upon themselves to relabel the terrorists "freedom fighters", and insist that, if only we were more understanding, more accommodating, they wouldn't be so bent on blowing us to smithereens.

But the liberals are apparently not guided by the mantra of common sense as much as they are the mantra of "hate Bush". In the same spirit of ideological partisanship that saw them reverse themselves from a position of demanding that social security was in crisis to that of utter denial when the Republicans presented a solution to the problem, they now insist that EVERY Islamic government is to be feared by the American people, regardless of how cooperative they have been with our efforts to bring terrorists to justice. They forget that it is the UAE who allows us to maintain strategic bases within their borders, at their own personal peril from middle eastern governments and entities that oppose our very existence in that part of the globe. They forget that it was the UAE who handed over the mastermind behind the bombing of the USS Cole and who has worked to help us apprehend terrorists in the middle east, providing us with intelligence that we, as westerners, would be unlikely to obtain without their cooperation, again, at their own personal peril. They will point to the fact that 2 of the 19 9/11 hijackers hailed from the UAE, as if that were somehow representative of the ideology of that nation's government. All that matters is the simple rule of thumb that if Bush supports it, they must be against it.

They have even defied the fact that one of their own iconic figures, Jimmy Carter, ENDORSES the deal. All that matters to them is their antipathy towards the Bush administration.

It would stand to reason that if Islam were truly the "religion of peace", we would not only want to do business with them, we would practically INSIST upon it. After all, who better to do business with than an ally dedicated to pacifism, to peaceful cooperation? Dubai would seem the perfect "marriage partner" in this deal, even better than Britain, whose historical imperialism would prevent them from being considered a "peaceful ally", even though they have shown themselves to be a consistent ally of the United States. The fact is, the liberals KNOW that Islam is NOT a religion of peace, and they KNOW the dangerous consequences if somehow extremist elements of Islam are in control of our ports. Their hatred of Bush just gives them a convenient out to opposing the ports deal without owning up to that fact.

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Reply #26 Top
I wanted to comment on the whole port issue...

firstly, I not a big fan of Bush or anything... but i have to say that he isnt a total idiot... i dont understand how this deal would be dangerous to Americans... you think Bush didnt consider all the security issues? i cant believe how some people can be so dumb ... well i guess i can it is Bush (just kidding dont take offense)... but I give bush more credit than that ... he isnt a total lost case and another reason why this deal is a good idea is because it develops some good relationship with an Arab country especially Dubai which is more liberal compared to other Arab countries and is infact a good American ally... Bush is not as dumb as he looks, cudos to him for pushing this through...
Reply #27 Top
Bush is not as dumb as he looks, cudos to him for pushing this through...


Pushing what through? The UAE Port deal? Check the news....it's pretty much dead.

Reply #28 Top
really? lol wasnt he gonna veto the descion to kill it? ... o well i guess its the thought that counts (atleast now) so i still give him my props... :D
Reply #29 Top
" really? lol wasnt he gonna veto the descion to kill it? ... o well i guess its the thought that counts (atleast now) so i still give him my props..."


He was, but the legislators in question tagged it onto the bill that allocated money to Iraq, Hurricaine Katrina victims, and other much needed problems. In order for him to veto it he would have been vetoing that aid as well.

It didn't matter, though, because the UAE dropped the part of the deal with the US ports, anyway. It saved Bush from having to do that, but in the process it has seriously harmed us in the Middle East, I think. For the UAE it isn't that big of a deal, the US part was only like 10% of the it. The statement we've made is far, far worse, though.
Reply #30 Top

Christians are no better than Muslims, you're all the flawed, idiot children of silly superstitions.


Whether these religions have flaws or are silly superstitions wasn't the subject here. But you ask which religion is the religion of peace among the two.

Why don't you walk into a church and then a mosque and tell the believers what you tols us. You will find out.

(Walk into the church first!)
Reply #31 Top

Whether these religions have flaws or are silly superstitions wasn't the subject here. But you ask which religion is the religion of peace among the two.

Myrr is an avowed anti-theist.  The only good religion is a dead religion type.

Reply #32 Top

Myrr is an avowed anti-theist.


If he doesn't believe in G-d, how can he understand G-d and why people would believe in Him?
Reply #33 Top
f he doesn't believe in G-d, how can he understand G-d and why people would believe in Him?


religion and god shouldn't be put together... just my opinion... actually matter of fact Some Christian lady was tring to covert me while i was waiting for my bus... and i said i dont follow religion its man-made... and she said to me... thats good because Christanity is not a religion...

Reply #34 Top

Your article implies that Islam isn't a religion of peace. Fair enough. Is there a religion of peace, then? Is is Christianity?

I'd say that Buddhists would be the only consistent "religion of peace", Myrr. I believe FAITHFUL Christians, FAITHFUL Jews (and possibly faithful Muslims...I really can't speak to the sincere practice of their faith, so I won't pretend to) practice "religions of peace", but that their own faiths are in constant conflict with those who wish to exploit the faiths for their own personal gain.

But another question that needs to be asked in examining whether faithful Islam is a "religion of peace" is why ALL religious conflicts around the globe have Islam as the common denominator (against the Jews worldwide, against the Christians in Middle Eastern regions, against the Hindi in India, against the Buddhists in Afghanistan).

Reply #35 Top

and i said i dont follow religion its man-made... and she said to me... thats good because Christanity is not a religion...

Did you manage to keep a straight face?

Reply #36 Top
Did you manage to keep a straight face?


when she said it for that moment i believed her cause she was so nice... i guess she got me
Reply #37 Top

Did you manage to keep a straight face?

In a way, she has a point. I have always stated that religion was a personal faith experience, so the term "organized religion" is, in fact, an oxymoron.