WHY do Some Americans continue to Support Bush?

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As the polls show support for Bush and Cheney falling to about the same levels as for Nixon and Agnew, I wonder the reasons for the remaining support for Bush. I have been clear as to my rational for not supporting Bush and his policies. I would be VERY interested in learning specific reasons why those of you that support Bush continue to defend him and his policies.

I will not use your answers to further attack Bush. I just want to understand why anyone continues to support him.
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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top
Seems like there are NO reasons to support Bush!
Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top
Seems like there are NO reasons to support Bush!


Because the United States Constitution establishes him as the head of the executive branch, and because the power of impeachment resides in Congress, NOT in the court of popular opinion. Bush has committed no provable "high crimes or misdemeanors" to merit a standard of impeachment, and as he retains that office, he deserves the respect that should be afforded that office.

I support Bush because if we support impeachment on every political whim, we will make the presidency a highly unstable office, and that instability will trickle down to the rest of America.

I have a question for YOU, Col, a sincere one: Why do some of you constantly ATTACK Bush? Don't you realize that your constant barrage of attacks and partisanship are a barrier to getting anything done? Civility does not only belong in politics; it is ESSENTIAL to politics, and when it is consistently lacking, our ability to make positive change is equally lacking.
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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top

Seems like there are NO reasons to support Bush!


Wrong. Maybe noone feels compelled to bother commenting on a Bush Basher's blog.

Gid, well said.
Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top
I can not speak for anyone else. I comment of the issues that face our nation that need resolution. I have tried to show the change in things like the Medicare, Social Security, budget, trade, energy, education, border security etc. When I show the change in these important areas over the past five years, the retort I hear is that I am Bush bashing. What I have done is shown the impact on these issues that has taken place since January 2001.
Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top
#2 by Gideon MacLeish


Here, Here..

I conpletely agree.
Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top
What I have done is shown the impact on these issues that has taken place since January 2001.


And that is where your problem originates Col, everyone here knows that these problems have been problems for longer that 2001 and those before Bush did little or nothing about it but you only place blame on a single man. You should be man at all Americans, not just Bush. We are all responsible for what goes on in this country. Business owners are responsible for using illegal immigrants to do their work so that they don't have to pay a lot and pay taxes. We are responsible for the energy problem such as fuel because we just have to have those big SUV's that eat gas like in was cotton candy. We waste energy by leaving lights on in every room where there is no one in. We are responsible for spending money when we should be saving. Buy too many unnecesary items because we are ambitions and envious of everyone else who has it like movie stars.

We, the American people are the ones who need to take responsability for our actions. You need to be mad at the American people for getting lazy and letting the Gov't do all the work for them. That is why the Gov't is the way it is today. We have no one else to blame but ourselves.

I don't go by polls because they use people who are ignorant in politics and are easily swayed by the media and all the stories they report in their own words. I follow Bush, not blindly but cusiously, because I believe he is doing the right thing by making us face our fears, by letting everyone know that we are not to be messed with and if violence is what they want, that's what they will get.

Their may be things that still need work in the US but there is still time. Money is already been giving for the border pratrol problem and more is on the way so I don't see why you keep pointing that out. It's the business owners who we should focus our arger towards.

Defending the Homeland. Government-wide, non-defense homeland security funding, including fee-funded activities, increases by more than 8 percent. The Budget also provides resources to strengthen our borders with funding for 1,500 new border patrol agents, 6,000 new detention beds, 560 detention and removal personnel, and 257 attorneys to expedite removal of illegal immigrants.


from :http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/budget/2007/index.html Link
Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top
You comment to hear yourself, best I can tell.
Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top
Many of the issues did exist when Bush came into office. Several issues developed during his tenure.

For example, the funding problems with Social Security existed long before GWB took office. When I look at the way in which Bush has dealt with this issue I see NO progress and we are moving closer to the day of reckoning. He did make a suggestion that failed to solve the issue at hand which was HOW to FUND the Baby Boomer retirements. He wanted to convert the system to something different for the generation that followed the Baby Boomers while making the current problem worse.

Medicare was also an issue that existed long before Bush took office. In this case Bush took something already in serious financial trouble and added the largest single new entitlement program to Medicare WITH NO WAY TO PAY FOR THIS NEW PROGRAM - Part D. That made the fiscal problems of Medicare MUCH worse and will bring the date of reckoning sooner.

The Annual Budget deficit was finally in balance after 20 years of being out of balance. Bush turned it into a HUGH problem that has no reasonable prospect for solving it under his tax and spend policies.

These are just three examples of how his policies either failed to resolve problems he inherited or problems he either made worse or created with his approach to running our country!
Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top
I suspect except for the first response you have no specific reasons for supporting Bush.
Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top
I will not use your answers to further attack Bush.
Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
I will not use your answers to further attack Bush.
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
Bush has pretty much been a single-issue president: focusing what insight and competence he has on the war on terror. All of the other long-standing structural and institutional problems that face this country, he's been letting them sort of just muddle along, same as it ever was.
Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top
a) He is the duly elected President and has the power to do what he is doing. If he exceeds that power, it will/has been investigated.
b) You can support someone and not agree with everything they enact. I supported Clinton's presidency, and even some of his policies, and thought he was an utter dolt.
c) I'm not a serial whiner with a messiah complex and a penchant for futility. I know that we have a President, not an emporer, so there's no reason to incite some sort of revolution. He'll be gone in a couple of years and the next schmoe will be pissing people off.
d) He stands in opposition to policies I despise, and I know he'll veto any attempt to put them into law.
e) Because no matter how many Chicken Littles whine about this and that, they never, ever have any suggestions that are better than what the President is doing.

Like you, Col, someone who endlessly criticizes and offers no alternatives. Someday maybe you'll see how many years you wasted on this vendetta foolishness.
Reply #14 from JoeUser Forums Top
Section two of my new book offers the Alternatives to the policies we are following. this is the Press release :

* FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE**

EDITORS: E-mail: [email protected]
Tel: (239) 541-5799


Change the Bush policies to protect our future?
What have the Bush policies done, suggested alternatives and insightful Blogs

CAPE CORAL, FLA. - You can not turn on the TV, radio or read the news paper without politics hitting you in the face. There are many books that have blasted President Bush and the Congress for their failure to address some of the most important issues facing America as we begin the 21st century. WHY should you read, George W. Bush Robin Hood for the Rich? To look at alternate suggestions to solve the issues the current policies are not solving.

The Author has drawn from more then 40 blue ribbon sources to write his book. The first section documents the impact of the policies President Bush and the GOP have enacted since January 2001. The results are clearly stated and documented without the SPIN. The second section offers alternate policy suggestions to solve many of the issues that our current policies have failed to address. Topics such as Medicare, Social Security, Energy, the Federal Deficit, Taxes, Spending, Trade, Illegal Aliens and the loss of American Jobs. The third section is a sample of the Author’s Blogs that take issue with current news stories. The Author has used specific news stories to create his Blogs in order to illustrate the impact of the Bush policies on the average person and the country overall. This section will in some cases be humorous while at other times provocative. In all cases they will grab the reader’s attention.

To learn the truth about what is happening in America and to look at some different solutions you MUST read, George W. Bush Robin Hood for the Rich.

The Author has used his successful business and military careers combined with an outstanding number of expert sources and federal agencies to prepare his analysis of the Bush policies and offer alternatives to effectively deal with the problem areas that have not been resolved by the current policies. The Author is in total agreement with President Bush that WE NEED TO JUDGE BY RESULTS! Let’s look at the results and possible alternatives so we can pass on a BETTER America to our children! We should not,” stay the course” when that course leads us over a cliff.
Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top
Gene, you shameless slut.
Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top
Nice, Col, so these past couple of years when I have been challenging you to offer better alternatives you've just been saving them up for your book, huh? Oh, I bet I have to buy it to find out...
Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top
No I have used some of them in my past Blogs. Just a few examples:

Save Social Security from GWB Jan 6, 2005; Let's Fix Social Security Feb 16, 2005; Solve the Energy Crises Feb 5, 2005.
Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top
Gene, you shameless slut.

I told you months ago, his blog does nothing but sound out his talking points.

COL, you're just like Bill O'Reilly. (Betcha love THAT comparison!)
Reply #19 from JoeUser Forums Top
Daiwa

I was just answering a question about ALTERNATIVES with the Press Release.
Reply #20 from JoeUser Forums Top
singrdave


Better read the three Blogs I sighted above. They contain specific Alternatives. My Blog of Feb 5, 2005 is especially comprehensive and I am not a former oil company executive!
Reply #21 from JoeUser Forums Top
For example, the funding problems with Social Security existed long before GWB took office. When I look at the way in which Bush has dealt with this issue I see NO progress and we are moving closer to the day of reckoning. He did make a suggestion that failed to solve the issue at hand which was HOW to FUND the Baby Boomer retirements. He wanted to convert the system to something different for the generation that followed the Baby Boomers while making the current problem worse.


Col, it will be another 30 years before this actually starts to take effect so chill out dude. And the only reason his idea failed is because everyone else disagreed with it but I have yet to see any other ideas.

Medicare was also an issue that existed long before Bush took office. In this case Bush took something already in serious financial trouble and added the largest single new entitlement program to Medicare WITH NO WAY TO PAY FOR THIS NEW PROGRAM - Part D. That made the fiscal problems of Medicare MUCH worse and will bring the date of reckoning sooner.


I don't get you, you complain that he does nothing about it but when he does you also complain where the money is gonna come from. Where do you think anything that you want solved will be paid from. Your problem is that whether he fixes it or ignores it you will be mad anyways. That's why no one here takes you serious Col.

The Annual Budget deficit was finally in balance after 20 years of being out of balance. Bush turned it into a HUGH problem that has no reasonable prospect for solving it under his tax and spend policies.


You do realize that you are blaming him for something that had problems for many years where the only way to solve it was for us, the American people, to pay for it when Clinton decided we should cough up the money for all the spending done by the Gov't from previous years till his presidency and now Bush's.

I will not use your answers to further attack Bush. I just want to understand why anyone continues to support him.


This is the most funniest and hypocritical statement I have seen you post yet. You claim you will not use our answers to attack Bush and yet it is the first thing you do, then you say you just wanna understand but you chose to ignore and rant about what you want. I thought this was for you to hear about what he had to say but instead you have been trying to make us understand you. This could be considered false advertisement and make you as much of a lier as you consider Bush to be. See how you and have so many things in common? That would be a good reason for you to hate him so much, you see a lot of yourself in him, things you probably don't like about yourself.
Reply #22 from JoeUser Forums Top
For example, the funding problems with Social Security existed long before GWB took office. When I look at the way in which Bush has dealt with this issue I see NO progress and we are moving closer to the day of reckoning. He did make a suggestion that failed to solve the issue at hand which was HOW to FUND the Baby Boomer retirements. He wanted to convert the system to something different for the generation that followed the Baby Boomers while making the current problem worse.


Col, it will be another 30 years before this actually starts to take effect so chill out dude. And the only reason his idea failed is because everyone else disagreed with it but I have yet to see any other ideas.

Medicare was also an issue that existed long before Bush took office. In this case Bush took something already in serious financial trouble and added the largest single new entitlement program to Medicare WITH NO WAY TO PAY FOR THIS NEW PROGRAM - Part D. That made the fiscal problems of Medicare MUCH worse and will bring the date of reckoning sooner.


I don't get you, you complain that he does nothing about it but when he does you also complain where the money is gonna come from. Where do you think anything that you want solved will be paid from. Your problem is that whether he fixes it or ignores it you will be mad anyways. That's why no one here takes you serious Col.

The Annual Budget deficit was finally in balance after 20 years of being out of balance. Bush turned it into a HUGH problem that has no reasonable prospect for solving it under his tax and spend policies.


You do realize that you are blaming him for something that had problems for many years where the only way to solve it was for us, the American people, to pay for it when Clinton decided we should cough up the money for all the spending done by the Gov't from previous years till his presidency and now Bush's.

I will not use your answers to further attack Bush. I just want to understand why anyone continues to support him.


This is the most funniest and hypocritical statement I have seen you post yet. You claim you will not use our answers to attack Bush and yet it is the first thing you do, then you say you just wanna understand but you chose to ignore and rant about what you want. I thought this was for you to hear about what he had to say but instead you have been trying to make us understand you. This could be considered false advertisement and make you as much of a lier as you consider Bush to be. See how you and have so many things in common? That would be a good reason for you to hate him so much, you see a lot of yourself in him, things you probably don't like about yourself.
Reply #23 from JoeUser Forums Top
First, it was Bush that sounded the warning about a need to solve the Social Security Funding issue. As I said, he did not provide any solution to the problem he said needed to be solved.

Medicare which is a much bigger and much sooner problem Bush said nothing about. What he did was to add another massive cash drain to something that was already in very real trouble. That made the issue of Medicare worse.

It took 20 years to finally bring Federal Expenditures and Federal Revenue in balance in 2000. Bush CUT tax revenue while increasing spending resulting in yet another round of deficits that has taken the cumulative National debt from $5.7 Trillion to $8.3 Trillion.

This is NOT BUSH BASHING they are FACTUAL statements of what has taken place with these three issues since January 2001.
Reply #24 from JoeUser Forums Top
First, it was Bush that sounded the warning about a need to solve the Social Security Funding issue. As I said, he did not provide any solution to the problem he said needed to be solved.


Uh, yes he did but it was not approved. That doesn't make it a bad solution.

Medicare which is a much bigger and much sooner problem Bush said nothing about. What he did was to add another massive cash drain to something that was already in very real trouble. That made the issue of Medicare worse.


So he tried to do something about it and that bothers you. Are you stupid or something Col. How did you think Medicare was to be fixed, with magical money? The money had to come from somewhere Col. Man you are thick.

It took 20 years to finally bring Federal Expenditures and Federal Revenue in balance in 2000. Bush CUT tax revenue while increasing spending resulting in yet another round of deficits that has taken the cumulative National debt from $5.7 Trillion to $8.3 Trillion.


The Gov't will always spend money, Clintons idea was to make us pay for the money the Gov't spends. In other words I have to pay for all those rediculous Gov't programs that exist, for all those people getting welfare illegally, for every steak every president ate. Get the picture or are you so full of hatred that you even ignored your own words in you article and have been attacking Bush since the begining?

You are a boring broken record who can't even follow the rules of your own article.
Reply #25 from JoeUser Forums Top
The Bush Social Solution was NOT a SOLUTION. Even the Social Security Trustees stated that to allow younger workers to divert some of their taxes to private accounts not only did not solve the problem at hand which was HOW TO PAY THE Baby Boomers retirement but made the Social Security funding problem worse.

If you are unable to meet you obligations do you solve you financial problems by taking on more obligations? HELL NO. That is just what Bush did with Medicare by pushing Part D with NO WAY TO PAY FOR IT!.

No government or person can spend more then their income indefinitely. As the Comptroller General said, the fiscal policy the United States can not be sustained! What does Bush want to do? Make his tax cuts permanent which adds further to the defect.