Questions about my current game tactics....

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In my current game I am the Terrens.
Large Galaxy
Normal Difficulty
Playing against 7 others I think.
I am of good alignment.

Ok I started in the middle of the galaxy, which at the start I didn’t like, but I went ahead and played it. I bought colony ships each turn till I ran out of money, and was able to get a strong foothold on the center and upper left of the galaxy. For many years I have been fighting the Drengins, and have beat them down and into the corner. I have actually traded peace with them for planets, and I love to see them grovel. I am stretch thin at this point, we are currently at peace so I can retool my army. They have recently designed a new ship to counter mine that specific targets there weakness, and has been dominating them for a long time.

At this point a couple of the main races have been taken out, currently there is me (blue), Drengins(red), The other humanoids (light blue), Yellow, grey and green. Basically my civ and light blue have probably 70% of everything, maybe a little less. I am #1 in economy, population and influence, they are 2nd in all those and they are #1 in military where I am #2. We are both good. However, all the other races love me, and they are in the middle.

How should I approach this? I will of course finish off the drengins, given time. But light blue is slowly working on grey, yellow and green, not always warring with them, but they are taking over territories. Since we are both good, will we eventually duke it out? I have been planting several influence bases in there territory over the last couple years, should I back off if they get mad?

Here are the options as I see them (Finishing off the drengins is obvious):

#1- Focus on improving relations with light blue, and try to ally with them, while at the same time funding there enemies in there war campaign.

#2- While finishing off the drengins, start developing fighters to counter light blue strengths, and amass them close by powerful planets. As soon as I finish off the drengins, start focusing on light blue, and request all the civs that are close to me to attack them as well.

My current fear is that by the time I finish off the drengins, light blue could take out grey, green, yellow and have just too much power.

Thoughts?
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Reply #1 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Is an alliance with light blue a realistic possibility? You could win that way. If not, there's probably a few things you can do to give light-blue a headache trying to take over gray, green and yellow. Giving them tech that light blue already has isn't going to hurt you, so say the soldier improving techs for instance. This has the benefit that it doesn't cost you anything. Transfering ships could work against you as it may slow down your conquest of the Drengin.

Is it possible the Drengin could surrender to the Altarians? I don't know if that can happen, but it would be a bad outcome for you. Maybe try to take most of remaining Drengin planets in one turn so they don't have the chance.
Reply #2 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Sounds like you've got this one beat...it's only a matter of time. I wouldn't worry too much about "light-blue" they're bound to run into a snag sometime which will give you a chance to consolidate your power.
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Reply #3 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
I dont see an alliance a possability because we are just in the middle as far as releations. I like the idea about giving the others soler techs, thats a good idea.

"Is it possible the Drengin could surrender to the Altarians?"

it's funny you mention that, because a cuple turns after I took a planet, the Dengrins actually did Surrender to the light blues, een thought hey were not at war and wern't even near one another! How is this? High diplomacy?

Should I start requesting that my friends surrender to me before they loose to the light blues? Do they only like me so much because I am so powerful?

Pokerface, the problem is that While I ahve Dengrin blocked off from the rest of the galaxy, Light blue has all the others blocked off from me for the most part.



Thanks guys!
Reply #4 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
the computer will surrender to their closest friend only if they feel spiteful and have fairly good relations with them.
Reply #5 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
I'd work the diplomacy angle, lots of gifts to the light blues, then try to ally with them. I've learned that a few big gifts (3 or 4 techs or 5000+ BC) go a lot farther than a lot of small gifts. I'd also give whatever techs you and the light blue both have to everyone else either for free or for cheap, to help slow down the light blue advance, just in case they declare war on you. I wouldn't give any ships though.

Oh, and make sure if you give the light blues a bunch of techs as a gift, you go around to the other races and sell/give the techs to them as well, or else the light blues will do some tech trading and make a profit off of the deal.

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Reply #6 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
If I am not allied with the Light blue,a nd we are both of good alignment, is it possible that once all the other races are eliminated we can live in peace?
Reply #7 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
The Altarans don't like you because you've been at war (probably). (Altarans are Lt. blue). Also, they are in competition with your for top-spot, so an alliance is more difficult. (Imagine cold-war US and USSR forming an alliance? Didn't happen).

I think you need to combine both strategies. Here's what I'd recommend...

Finish off the vile Drengin at a liesurely pace. Maybe even shift gears to influence.
Influence would be a good choice, because that sounds like what the Altarans are doing. Building influence starbases will counter their strategy.
Fund the Altaran's enemies, give them research. If you can spare them, give them ships.
Build trade routes and give better than fair deals in the trade screen to the Altarans to keep their trust.
Take the moral high ground on any events that occur to raise your 'goodness' factor.
Keep your military at least on par, and preferably a little higher than theirs.
Build up your economy so that it VASTLY outguns theirs.
Eventually they will be grovelling for an alliance. Form one, then go whacking whoever is left.

Or not. There's a dozen other ways to win.
Reply #8 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Thnks for the tips.

Also, If I were to locate a few of there key planets, and stack fleets and troop transports next to them will they react to that?

I absolutly love how every action can have a consequence.

Thanks, Loving this game. Just hope mt wife is understanding that all I am doing this weekend is sleeping and playing this game! it's been years since there has been a game that grabbed my attention like this!
Reply #9 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Wife won't understand. Better love on her some. Buy her dinner, clean a room or two, then say, "Whew, all that buying stuff and cleaning and loving on you has made me tired. Mind if I go play on the computer a little while?" Once she says 'yes' you are in until you pass out. Once you have slept you have to start over.

If you are playing at a harder difficulty level they won't like transports near their planets very much. Depending on your military might they may or may not attack you to get rid of them.

Reply #10 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Ok I am in trouble! The Red surrendered to the light blue while he still had a bunch of planets. Red said they made the best offer? How do you offer?

Anyways, I am 2nd in influence, still #1 in econmy , research, and population. Light blue and yellow are currently waring agaisnt grey, I have put all military building on hold, and am pumping research big time.

Any suggestions on my next move? Should I huncker down and go for a tech victory?
Reply #11 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Red said they made the best offer? How do you offer?


They either surrender to the one who is attacking them, or that empire's rival, as far as I can tell. No way to put in an offer.

I went for a tech victory in my last game. It took a lot of turns though, but not so much real time since not that much was happening. I was in a situation where conquering the rest of the map would have been pretty easy though (just been more fidely). To put it in perspective, I was doing 75-80% of the research for the whole (large) galaxy, and the last techs tooks 5, 10, 20 and 40 turns (approx).