Possible Pandemic as Bush Cuts Funding for Disease Control




Today there are several reports on the spread of Bird Flu in two areas of the world. The concern for a pandemic is growing and we have no significant amount of vaccine in the United States. Can anyone explain WHY Bush would be proposing to cut this funding given our lack of preparedness for a major epidemic in America?
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Once... just once I'd like to see you write something that isn't an assault on Bush... maybe what you did this weekend... a movie you saw recently... something... anything...
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Once... just once I'd like to see you write something that isn't an assault on Bush... maybe what you did this weekend... a movie you saw recently... something... anything...


I'd like to see him write a full article rather than a sentence composed of misinformation that comes from Mikey Moore's feeding trough.

But then, as long as I'm wishing, I'd like a Jaguar.
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Our resident Chicken Little has outdone himself.
I can't wait for Gene to give us the quatrain predicting the bird flu.
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It sounds like English; it even looks like English, but I can't understand a word you're blabbering. You should offer your posting style to hospital operating theatres as a highly-effective alternative to unconsciousness-inducing medications.

If there's an idea in your head, it's in solitary confinement. Is that a conclusion or simply the place where you got tired of thinking? However, I'll consider letting you have the last word if you guarantee it will be your last. As Robert Wilensky said: "We've all heard that a million monkeys banging on a million typewriters will eventually reproduce the entire works of Shakespeare. Now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true."

Calling you dull is a gross underestimation of just how tedious you are. You have the personality of a damp sponge and the appeal of a moldy sweat sock. You are the kind of person who, when one first meets you, one doesn't like you. But when one gets to know you better, one hates you. Maybe you wouldn't come across as such a jellyfish-sucking mental midget if you weren't so dense that light bends around you; if your weren't so fat that when God said "Let there be Light", he told you to move your fat ass out of the way, or if you weren't so ugly that even the tide wouldn't take you out. Nah, of course you would.

In conclusion, thank you. We were all refreshed and challenged by your unique point of view. Thank you LW.
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LOL, best article ever Col. You just have to have your cup of Bush Bashing everyday before you go to sleep.

All I found on this subject was that some people are upset, mostly those who are getting less money. But some actually said it's not a bad thing, here's an example:

At a press conference in Washington on Monday, Health and Human Services Secretary Mike Leavitt said the budget is "fiscally responsible" and makes some "tough choices."


and

"The vast majority of reduction in CDC spending is for building projects that have been completed," Pierce said. Several outside groups, however, provided specific criticism for health-related funding that is subject to the proposed cuts.


and

The American Public Health Association noted that the proposed fiscal 2006 White House budget includes several public health highlights - including a boost in funding for community health centers and flu vaccine.

Link

But ofcourse you only care about what those who complain say, as usual.
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Read this about the Bush 2007 budget:

Budget Proposals Trim Health Care Spending

by Julie Rovner

Senior citizen Leon Washington
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Senior Leon Washington looks at a prescription drug chart during a Medicare enrollment event in Pleasanton, Calif., in December 2005. The budget proposes $35.9 billion in spending reductions for Medicare over the next five years. Getty Images



President Bush's FY2007 budget would not only cut funding for a broad array of health programs, it could also fundamentally change the way the Medicare program for the elderly and disabled is funded.

Funding for so-called "discretionary" health programs would be largely frozen -- as for the $28 billion National Institutes of Health -- or reduced. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, for example, would see a $367 million reduction, to $5.8 billion; funding for the Health Resources and Services Administration would drop $252 million, to $6.3 billion.

Continuing a theme from last year, the budget proposes to terminate several smaller health programs, including one that helps fund training for primary care doctors and other health professionals, and the Health Community Access Program that links community health centers and public hospitals.

On the "entitlement" funding front, the budget proposes an additional $12 billion over five years in spending reductions for the Medicaid health program for the poor, whose funding is shared between the federal government and the states. Most of those reductions would come through cracking down on some state financing techniques that federal officials say allow states to pay less then they should.

But the biggest changes would come to the $350 billion Medicare program. The budget proposes $35.9 billion in spending reductions over the next five years, largely by reducing payments to hospitals, nursing homes, and some other health care providers.

A potentially far-reaching shift would in effect cap the amount of federal tax revenue that flows to Medicare. Currently the program is funded from three separate sources -- payroll taxes, beneficiary premiums, and general tax revenues. If the latter were to grow beyond 45 percent of total Medicare spending, under the proposal, Congress would either have to act to limit spending to that amount, or an across-the-board reduction of 0.1 percent would be applied to all Medicare spending.
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Did you ever consider the reason there are SO many stories about the adverse results of Bush is because almost everything he does results is making a problem worse or creating a new problem. I do not make up these stories they are ALL over the NEWS!
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This is classic opposition have-it-both-ways disingenuousness. Bitch loudly about how we're overspending (in general, citing the overall deficit, how we're dumping on our kids, etc.), then bitch at least as loud when spending is cut (specifically, of course, citing only the cuts that hurt your political sacred cows).

It's very similar to Congressional earmarks - once you've been to the trough, it's really tough to walk by without taking a drink.
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Gene -

How can you expect government to not only be the answer to everything, but also to do it perfectly the first time every time, without paying through the nose for it?
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Did you ever consider the reason there are SO many stories about the adverse results of Bush is because almost everything he does results is making a problem worse or creating a new problem. I do not make up these stories they are ALL over the NEWS!


If you say so Col, there is no point in arguing because you always ignore everything throw at you. I have to admit you have gotten really good at using Google or Yahoo or what ever search engine you use. You have an uncanny ability to find an article that makes you go " wow, just what I thought, I knew it was true" and then you probably have a beer to celebrate your findings.
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I do not expect the government to be EVERYTHING. Things like Border security, Homeland and national defense; Energy, etc are essentials for our society. In addition, we have made promises - Social Security, Medicare etc that must be honored. However, what we are doing is adding pork which has never been greater then since the GOP took control. They make the Democrats look like a piker. WE must be willing to PAY for the services we have undertaken even if that means slightly higher taxes. Running a $600 Billion deficit and piling up the debt the way Bush and his conservatives have is WRONG! If the majority are willing to cut even more services fine. However, I do not believe the vast majority are willing to do what would be required to balance the budget with spending cuts alone. WE have allowed it to get to far out of balance and the tax cuts alone WILL NOT close the gap.
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DJBandit

I dare you to list and support any major issues facing America that Bush has resolved or made significantly better over the past 5 1/2 years.
For Example: Trade The Federal deficit Social Security Medicare Medicaid Border Security Health care Education War on terrorism Political atmosphere Energy Loss of manufacturing and tech jobs
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DJBandit

I dare you to list and support any major issues facing America that Bush has resolved or made significantly better over the past 5 1/2 years. For Example: Trade The Federal deficit Social Security Medicare Medicaid Border Security Health care Education War on terrorism Political atmosphere Energy Loss of manufacturing and tech jobs


What would be the point. When have you even answered a challenge or a question pointed at you? Why should I do it? And I know you and your little friends who look for these kinds of responses (you know who you are) are going to say "typical rightwing answer to aviod answering because he/she can't". Think what you like but I will not bother with it cause if you don't deem us worthy of answering our questions than I don't deem you worthy of a response to you dare. BTW I'm sure someone will eventually do it, I recomend they do it as a separate article so as to not further add more points to your article than it deserves.

BTW this dare has nothing to do with the article, it doesn't suprise me to see you looking for other subjects to prove you point, you can't even follow your own articles.

Did you even realize that not one of your replies speaks of the article? But what can we expect.
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here is how it works for gene,

Bush gives money he is fiscally irresponsible and should be impeached!! notice the use of many exclaimation points to add weight to my offering?

Bush does not give money and he is ingoring a POTENTIAL!!!!! PROBLEM!!!! and should be impeached!!!
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30,000 people die in the US every year from the flu and resulting complications. That's more than AIDS. How many people, worldwide, have died from this "pandemic"? Are you saying, Col, that the government should be giving us free healthcare for the regular flu, too, considering it is thousands of times more apt to kill someone in the US?
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I love how those that support Bush simply ignore all the issued that face our country that are NOT being resolved. Today the House investigation of Katrina documented how Bush and the people he appointed utterly failed the American People.
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No, col, you're just a tyrant who thinks your opinion should be imposed on the rest of us. Many people don't believe that the government should be our overlords in any and all circumstance. Some of us wonder when they can't seem to do much else right why folks would even WANT them overseeing our health care.

But that isn't really the point, now, is it?
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Baker is spot on. I've always smiled to myself at the irony of the demands for universal government-paid healthcare from the same crowd which constantly savages our government as incompetent (whether Democrat-controlled or Republican-controlled).

You'll note that savaging the government appears to have provided Gene with full-time employment. As long as it is the government's responsibility to solve all our problems for us, there will be folks like Gene who believe all would be well if only we had better government; who will always have work to do, since government is not perfectable.
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So now Bush is a jerkoff because he's cut funding in the face of the Bird Flu.
A couple months ago, he was a jerkoff because he was using the Bird Flu to misdirect public attention, to deflect it away from the BIG ISSUES and his own slidng popularity.

Liberals and Bush-bashers......never happy.
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If there is a pandemic Bush and all the other politicians will be falling all over themselves telling us how this is beyond anything we could have envisioned. Being prepared for something like a pandemic is a far cry from universal health. I never advocated ANYTHING like that. However cutting funding when there is a real threat of something as devastating as a pandemic is irresponsible! It is just like ignoring the levies in New Orleans. WE could have spent $30 million to have protected New Orleans and avoided $300 million in damage.
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It is just like ignoring the levies in New Orleans. WE could have spent $30 million to have protected New Orleans and avoided $300 million in damage.


Gene -

You demonstrate the "bravery of being out of range." The levee problem was an issue of debate and concern long before the 4.3 years of the Bush administration that immediately preceeding their failure during Katrina. You are quite right that they should have been fortified long ago, but I fault the state and the city for not pushing the feds harder for the past 30 years (or, God forbid, taking care of it themselves). Bush had the misfortune of standing watch when the big one finally hit, but it was Congress (that little fitness club up on the hill there in DC) that for years & years failed to take the initiative and fund levee upgrades.
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"It is just like ignoring the levies in New Orleans. WE could have spent $30 million to have protected New Orleans and avoided $300 million in damage."


Who is we? My local school system complains they don't have enough money. When I start paying higher taxes you think maybe they should send my money to another state? We don't have a Fat Tuesday and the resulting debauchery to generate the kind of tax dollars that would take.

I think maybe you could make a more logical argument that the folks who were in danger of flooding should have elected people who were less concerned with handouts and more concerned with the safety of their community.
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Daiwa

You are correct the issue of the levies has been going on for years. However the Bush administration had several studies prepared that clearly showed the need to begin providing the needed work. Let’s look at what Bush did with this information-- He CUT the funding level starting in 2001 and totally ignored the studies his administration prepared documenting the problem. What has been done to deal with the levies since Katrina? The only authorization approved by Bush is to restore the levies to withstand a Cat 3 storm. Why has the administration failed to included in the 2007 budget the funds to begin the rebuilding of the levies to withstand a cat.5 storm?
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Congress can fix the levies any time it wishes.
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#16 by COL Gene
Monday, February 13, 2006


love how those that support Bush simply ignore all the issued that face our country that are NOT being resolved. Today the House investigation of Katrina documented how Bush and the people he appointed utterly failed the American People.


as usual you give half information, what they said was ALL GOVERNMENT FAILED, at the state, county and city level too, this is why NO ONE TAKES YOU SERIOUS GENE.