What side will the liberals take?

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Like I have been saying for many months, the islamic revolution is coming. You see the excuses they make for violence around the world, and it won't be long before this happens here in America. It's no secret that liberals in this country oppose almost every measure to fight terror, they take every chance they get to criticize our country, and liberal DNC leader himself has declared he thinks osama should get a fair trial, but Tom Delay is automatically guilty.

When islamists are burning down buildings in America, rioting, and killing Americans, will the democratic politicians who support Cindy Sheehan support her views that "America is not worth fighting for"? Will these liberal protestors be in the streets with signs that say "we support our troops when they shoot their officers"? Where will the liberals stand when the islamic revolution comes to our own streets?

Now I have been following this latest violence and noticed that once again the muslim community is not outraged at these actions. Where are the counter-protests? Where are major islamic leaders condemning these actions? I have watched several news programs that interview so-called islamic institutes in America, and most of them do everything they can to avoid condemning this violence. Almost every one of them go back to the same rhetoric, "don't offend". How many of these "organizations" are part of terror? It might be hard to find out since the liberals don't want us "spying" on them.

Like I have said, the islamic revolution is coming. The real question is, what side will you take?
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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top
It might be hard to find out since the liberals don't want us "spying" on them.

No, most liberals "don't want us spying on them" without warrants. There is a difference.
Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top
No, most liberals "don't want us spying on them" without warrants. There is a difference.


Stop nit-picking. You know what he ment. Sad that you would defend such a thing. I guess when it comes to terrorist it's ok for them to use any means necesary to get their point accross but we have to follow the rules and even when we do we are still questioned about it.

So far all I have heard is people (the Left) are concerned if it was legit or not to listen in on these calls but no one, no one at all has been able to prove if it was illegal. All of these geniuses in the US and no one can figure out if Bush did wrong or not. Go figure. How long has it been? Months since the story broke? And no word if it was legal or not, just concerns? These people should be ashamed of themselves for even considering the idea of it being illegal if they are not even sure themselves.

Anyways, that's how the world spins. If you do good you are screwed, if you do good that seems bad, you are screwed, if you do bad you win.
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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top

No, most liberals "don't want us spying on them" without warrants. There is a difference.

You dont need a warrant to spy on spies.  Better recheck the constitution.

Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top
So far all I have heard is people (the Left) are concerned if it was legit or not to listen in on these calls but no one, no one at all has been able to prove if it was illegal. All of these geniuses in the US and no one can figure out if Bush did wrong or not. Go figure. How long has it been? Months since the story broke? And no word if it was legal or not, just concerns? These people should be ashamed of themselves for even considering the idea of it being illegal if they are not even sure themselves.


Well, there is proof. The FISA law says it is the only law that goversn electronic surveillance within the United States. But inexplicably, the administration claims that law doesn't apply.
Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top
You dont need a warrant to spy on spies. Better recheck the constitution.


Who said anything about spying on "spies"?
Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top

You dont need a warrant to spy on spies. Better recheck the constitution.


Who said anything about spying on "spies"?

Well, Bush and Gonzales to name 2.  Specter for another.

Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top
The entire congress, that's is both house gave the President broad powers to co0mbat terrorism, that include "spying" on those that would harm America.

If we have some kind of Islamic revolution in America the left would be the first to go, for even Islamic terrorist can see how stupid and out of touch the left is!
Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top

The entire congress, that's is both house gave the President broad powers to co0mbat terrorism, that include "spying" on those that would harm America.

Congress does not have the power to do that.  Congress cannot usurp the constitution on a whim, no matter the size of the majority.  The founders left explicit instructions on how to amend it, and it takes more than the congress to do so.

Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top
You dont need a warrant to spy on spies. Better recheck the constitution.


Who said anything about spying on "spies"?

Well, Bush and Gonzales to name 2. Specter for another.


I don't see any quotes in this thread from them. Odd
Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top

I don't see any quotes in this thread from them. Odd

I dont beleive they have posted to this thread, so why would it be odd?

Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
No, most liberals "don't want us spying on them" without warrants. There is a difference.


As it's already been address, there is no proof anything illegal was done.

However, even if warrants were issued liberals would still complain about it.
Reply #12 from JoeUser Forums Top
However, even if warrants were issued liberals would still complain about it.


Uh huh...and if my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a rollerskate.
Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top
Are you saying liberals would not complain?

I mean really. Is there anything that liberals haven't complained about while we are fighting terrorism?
Reply #14 from JoeUser Forums Top

Uh huh...and if my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a rollerskate.

You do her an injustice.  She would be a Skateboard!

Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top
Well, there is proof. The FISA law says it is the only law that goversn electronic surveillance within the United States. But inexplicably, the administration claims that law doesn't apply.


And Bush is not in court or impeached yet because?
Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top

And Bush is not in court or impeached yet because?

Laws passed by congress can not supercede the Constitution.

Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top
Like I have been saying for many months, the islamic revolution is coming. You see the excuses they make for violence around the world, and it won't be long before this happens here in America.

The Islamic Revolution?

*snicker*

C'mon.

Like any group that gains a majority standing in the populace of a region, laws and attitudes favoring that majority are going to occur.

Right now, one could claim America is in the midst of a 'Hispanic Revolution' as their numbers are growing by leaps and bounds - bringing their culture with them. If the Hispanic influx is not brought to a much lower level, your great-grandchildren will most possibly be speaking Spainish.

If America wants to end the possible problem of dealing with a large and powerful minority (such as Muslims) they need do only one thing - fix our Immigration Policy. Stop importing people from highly Muslim regions and end their influence there.


It might be hard to find out since the liberals don't want us "spying" on them.

Yes, only 'liberals' don't want to be spied upon. Conservatives love a big government watching their every move.

The difference between 'Nanny State' and 'Big Brother'?

Kripes, I leave for a while and find that JU has gone from 'approaching the edge of sanity' to 'barking mad dog frothing at mouth'.

Oh, yeah, Cindy Sheehan is a terrorist too,

DOWN WITH CAPITALISM, TERROR FOR EVERYONE!

Give me a break, Island Dog.

I'm seriously entertaining the thought that you have actually fooled yourself into believing the minority political party (with virtually no power)is 'in cahoots' with 'terrorists', that they want to destroy capitalism, democracy, Mom's Apple Pie, and any Republican unless he is critical of the current administration.

Get off that medication now!

....or get back on it.
Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top

Right now, one could claim America is in the midst of a 'Hispanic Revolution' as their numbers are growing by leaps and bounds -

Thanks for the reminder.  I have to sign up for my spanish class. (Seriously).

Reply #19 from JoeUser Forums Top
I'm seriously entertaining the thought that you have actually fooled yourself into believing the minority political party (with virtually no power)is 'in cahoots' with 'terrorists', that they want to destroy capitalism, democracy, Mom's Apple Pie, and any Republican unless he is critical of the current administration.


I didn't say they are in "cahoots", although the liberals do help terrorists with propaganda. Where do you think the terrorists got their "Vietnam" rhetoric from?


Yes, only 'liberals' don't want to be spied upon. Conservatives love a big government watching their every move.


This has nothing to do with "watching everyone's move". The fact is this program is spying on Americans who are helping foreign terrorists. Only liberals have a problem with this, and every other measure that is taken to stop terror.


Right now, one could claim America is in the midst of a 'Hispanic Revolution' as their numbers are growing by leaps and bounds - bringing their culture with them. If the Hispanic influx is not brought to a much lower level, your great-grandchildren will most possibly be speaking Spainish.


Well I haven't seen any hispanics rioting across the world for any reason that suits them. I haven't heard any hispanic leaders call for the destruction of America. Big difference.
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Reply #21 from JoeUser Forums Top
Right now, one could claim America is in the midst of a 'Hispanic Revolution' as their numbers are growing by leaps and bounds - bringing their culture with them.


For real, damn. I have to go and get some Puertorican flags and some cardboard and markers and start making signs. Your a riot defence. I can see it now, streets filled will latinos crying and screeming "kill the beast (Bush), kill the beast(Bush)".

If the Hispanic influx is not brought to a much lower level, your great-grandchildren will most possibly be speaking Spainish.


Last I checked most latinos were willing to give up theyr culture to adjust to the one here in the US. Trust me I know. I'm Puertorican. You should see how many people here in Puerto Rico know English now compared to 15 years ago. They would rather keep the US the way it is rather than turn it into another latin country going down the drain with the rest of them.
Reply #22 from JoeUser Forums Top
This has nothing to do with "watching everyone's move". The fact is this program is spying on Americans who are helping foreign terrorists. Only liberals have a problem with this, and every other measure that is taken to stop terror. - Island Dog

I wonder where 'watching everyone's move' begins. Stoplights at intersections, National ID cards, high resolution satellites monitoring the earth's expanse, Echelon, TIA, and citizens willingly giving up privacy to their own phones and homes.

We actually don't know for a fact this program only targets or only will target Americans speaking with terrorists abroad. In fact, the point of the program is to help confirm or discomfirm the suspicion - right?

Only liberals have a problem with this? C'mon Dog, have some faith (that most conservatives don't appreciate this program) and mix it with some cynicysm (Clinton utilized Echelon - all presidents have since it's inception - or at least kept it around and operating).

I didn't say they are in "cahoots", although the liberals do help terrorists with propaganda. Where do you think the terrorists got their "Vietnam" rhetoric from?

Okay then, I retract that statement, it just seemed to me you've been getting awfully close to implying the dem's are somehow 'in with the shadowy scourge of terrorists'.

I can certainly agree 'terrorists' may borrow rhetoric to fit their needs, but we can't allow freedom haters to deny us freedom.


Well I haven't seen any hispanics rioting across the world for any reason that suits them. I haven't heard any hispanic leaders call for the destruction of America. Big difference. - Island Dog

I'm speaking in regards to the influence one group might have because of the size of their populace. Revolution can come in many different forms.

...did you hear that DJBandit?

..and yes, Puerto Rico is our territory with many of the benefits of an American state without actually becoming a part of the union. Someday you should write a piece for JU discussing the place...
Reply #23 from JoeUser Forums Top
Okay then, I retract that statement, it just seemed to me you've been getting awfully close to implying the dem's are somehow 'in with the shadowy scourge of terrorists'.


I haven't implied that yet, but I am close. Liberals do have organizations such as code pink that do actively support terrorists. You also have statement from terrorist leaders that sound almost identical to something Ted Kennedy said. I have no problem with someone being against the war, it is their right. However the line between being against something and helping the enemy is being crossed too much.


Only liberals have a problem with this? C'mon Dog, have some faith (that most conservatives don't appreciate this program) and mix it with some cynicysm (Clinton utilized Echelon - all presidents have since it's inception - or at least kept it around and operating).


Ok, you are right. However I don't hear and didn't hear any criticism of Echelon. But as all democratic tactics this is nothing but politics.
I'm speaking in regards to the influence one group might have because of the size of their populace. Revolution can come in many different forms.


Yes, but as I said before Hispanics don't run around the world screaming for the destruction of America. I don't see them acting like animals when a cartoon "offends" them. There is a difference.
Reply #24 from JoeUser Forums Top
This is some of the stupidest dribble that I have ever had the displeasure of reading. Your analyses of the situations you examine are nothing but rhetoric that is supported only by stereotypes and never with any concrete evidence or, for that matter, empirical support that extends beyond scant, heavily prejudiced, descriptions of disparate news events. You accuse the Democrats of practicing nothing but politics, which is the most hypocritical position possible, considering that the Republican War Machine has released nothing but propoganda to the American public when attempting to justify its foreign policy decisions, which have been absolutely disasterous. I suggest that you reevaluate the sources of knowledge that you take for granted, because they have led this country only down roads that end in more death, spawning more Arabic resentment, causing more terrorism, which only leads to the same reaction by the Bush Regime. It is simply an endless circle devised by the neoconservatives to justify their continued monopoly of power. And to think that you accuse the Democrats of practicing nothing but politics.
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