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January 30, 2006 5:07:35 PM from JoeUser ForumsJoeUser Forums
I was going to append this to my "Hillary Shows Her Stripes" article, but I decided that this was worthy of its own thread... Read on, good JUser, regarding the crafted candidacy of Hillary Clinton.

Here comes Hillary again, crafting her presidential ambitions in front of Jane Pauley, of all people. You know, for someone who hasn't formally announced her candidacy, she sure sounds like a contender...



From Newsmax.com:
Americans are growing 'impatient" as they wait for a woman to be elected president, 2008 presidential candidate Hillary Clinton said Saturday night.

"People are saying,' Well, at least we're ready,'" Clinton told interviewer Jane Pauley, as the two held a public chat for charity in San Francisco.

"There's a feeling that it's time," she added.

Then, in quotes picked up the New York Sun, the former first lady said she detected "a certain impatience" to see a female president following the election of women to similar roles in other countries.

Despite Mrs. Clinton's claims, a Gallup poll found last week that 51 percent of Americans had already made up their minds not to vote for her.

The top Democrat offered the comments after Pauley noted that President Bush had recently said she'd make a "formidable" candidate.

Aah, a Hillary lovefest... "you know, Mrs. Clinton, you'd make a formidable Presidential candidate..." What a hard ball question from Ms. Pauley. Guess we know once again on which side of the fence Pauley falls. Sycophant.

Mrs. Clinton declined to return the compliment however, and instead blasted Mr. Bush for mishandling the rebuilding of New Orleans after it was destroyed by Hurricane Katrina.

"I think that basically we are now watching a deliberate policy of neglect take root," Hillary complained.

She then suggested that the White House didn't want to rebuild New Orleans because "all those Democrats might come home."

Actually, the Republicans can afford to lose Louisiana... the elections were not that close. The red states' totals in 2004 did not need Louisiana's electoral votes like they did in 2000.

So, here it is again... cleverly crafted and edited for public consumption: the candidacy of Hillary Clinton. Her image is ultimately important. She has to overcome her health care legacy and all her "Bill-ary" baggage in order to be a viable candidate.

More than two years away from the election and we're already getting infomercials and propaganda.
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Reply #1 January 30, 2006 5:11:27 PM
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Reply #2 January 30, 2006 8:50:31 PM
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All you righties are going to feel soooo silly when she doesn't end up running.
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Reply #3 January 30, 2006 8:51:07 PM
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Blech! I really can't stand that woman. I certainly don't get the feeling that Americans are "impatient" for a female president especially if she was it. I truly wouldn't want her to be representitive of American women. She has probably been posturing for the presidency since the day she married Bill (if not before).

I do however believe the poll that 51% would not vote for her.
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Reply #4 January 30, 2006 9:03:13 PM
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you righties are going to feel soooo silly when she doesn't end up running


I wouldn't mind that one bit.
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Reply #5 January 30, 2006 9:24:35 PM
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I wouldn't mind that one bit.

I'm sure you wouldn't
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Reply #6 January 30, 2006 10:51:33 PM
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On the contrary, I rather think Jill and others would like to see her run since they believe she wouldn't stand a chance of winning.
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Reply #7 January 31, 2006 12:57:42 AM
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On the contrary, I rather think Jill and others would like to see her run since they believe she wouldn't stand a chance of winning.


BINGO! Any republican candidate would be a "shoe-in".
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Reply #8 January 31, 2006 1:04:43 AM
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The Hillary of the last year or so reminds me of one of those penny smashing machines. It seems like she can't go more than a few public appearance without running herself through those gears to make sure she looks like anything but what she is.
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Reply #9 January 31, 2006 8:00:22 AM
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The Hillary of the last year or so reminds me of one of those penny smashing machines. It seems like she can't go more than a few public appearance without running herself through those gears to make sure she looks like anything but what she is.

The nice way of saying it is, "Tailoring her comments to her audience", but we all know it's pandering. Tell the people what they want to hear. If it's a group of black Democrats on MLK Day, then talk about how the Congress is run like a plantation. If it's a centrist group whose votes she'd like to court, then she's going to talk about things that make her a viable candidate to that group.

you righties are going to feel soooo silly when she doesn't end up running

What are you talking about? She's already on the campaign trail!
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Reply #10 January 31, 2006 8:32:41 AM
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What are you talking about? She's already on the campaign trail!


Oh, my bad...I seem to have missed all the Clinton '08 banners and signs everywhere she goes...now I see them.

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Reply #11 January 31, 2006 9:24:36 AM
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All you righties are going to feel soooo silly when she doesn't end up running.

When that happens, I will buy you a beer.

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Reply #12 January 31, 2006 10:06:33 AM
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All you righties are going to feel soooo silly when she doesn't end up running.


It's a win win situation davad. If she runs she will just make it easier for us to win if she doesn't they'll just make it easier for us to win.
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Reply #13 January 31, 2006 10:06:52 AM
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When that happens, I will buy you a beer.


I second that.
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Reply #14 January 31, 2006 11:08:55 AM
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On the contrary, I rather think Jill and others would like to see her run since they believe she wouldn't stand a chance of winning.


Please don't think for me. I said what I meant. What I would like to see is good, viable candidates from both sides have real debate that would lead the country in discussion of issues rather than mass mud-slinging. But of course that isn't bound to happen

I, unlike some, am more concerned about the competency of the candidate than the political affiliation. I would like to see a Dem candidate that would bring out the best in the Republican candidate. I am certain Hillary is not the one to do that. I also know I don't want Hillary to run because it would mean a campaign long struggle with keeping my lunch and blood pressure down.
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Reply #15 January 31, 2006 1:06:23 PM
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Please don't think for me. I said what I meant.


Interesting how they tend to do that often. Somehow they believe they know exactly what your gonna say next. That combined with putting words in other peoples mouths make them great entertainers but terrible debaters.
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Reply #16 January 31, 2006 1:15:49 PM
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DJBandit, actually stevendedalus is a very good debater and, from what I've seen, I good person in general. I think his comment was light hearted due to the smiley face after it. I just didn't want to see less than light hearted people jumping on the band wagon. I didn't take any disrespect from stevendedalus though. Just wanted to clarify my mindset for myself.
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Reply #17 January 31, 2006 9:32:58 PM
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On the contrary, I rather think Jill and others would like to see her run since they believe she wouldn't stand a chance of winning.

Vote against the candidate you dislike the most!
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Reply #18 January 31, 2006 10:02:40 PM
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I also know I don't want Hillary to run because it would mean a campaign long struggle with keeping my lunch and blood pressure down.

LOL... love this! Ditto!
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