Kerry affair with Intern

Draginol

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Kerry affair with Intern

Don't feed the zealots

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In hindsight it was probably a mistake for the Democrats to start trying to smear Bush with the AWOL nonsense. When one side of zealots begins smearing the other side, that other side's zealots are bound to strike back. And it looks like Kerry's glass house is about to get shattered.

Wesley Clark told reports that Kerry has an "Intern problem" and predicted that Kerry's campaign would implode as a result. Sure enough, The Drudge Report (linked to at the bottom of this article) has a report that Kerry indeed apparently had an affair with an intern and that intern has left the country to head off the inevitable media uproar.

What affect will this have on the Democratic nomination? Kerry doesn't have it wrapped up yet. Edwards and Dean are still in there. At the end of the day, it's looking like this election season will be one of the nastiest on record. Though ironcially, it wasn't Kerry's Republican rivals that spilled the beans, it was a fellow "Democrat" that did so. But now that it's out there, the right wing zealots will be all over it like fresh meat, particularly after the AWOL charges by Democratic zealots.

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"But saying that Bush was a war hero? Yeah right."

"compared" was the key word, no one would compare Bush's recort to Kerry's but as compared to what the Democratic party has tolerated in the past Bush is easily makes par.

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Has anyone every watch the movie "The Contender (2000)". Seems fairly revelant to the current election campaign.

Paul.

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Anthony R

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It's a huge contradiction for liberals to bash bush on this topic, these are the same people that anointed Bill Clinton as a living deity.

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KarmaGirl

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I don't think that the affair will be damning, but the fact that the intern left the country may be (was that on her own will, or was it funded by him?) . If he is trying to cover it up, then you have the same situation that we had before. It's not the act that is an issue, it's the lying/covering up. Clinton was impeached, remember? It was not a light matter. I believe that he was also disbarred because of the whole "lying under oath" deal. Do people really want to repeat that? Why appoint somebody who is already on that road?

I, personally, don't like any of them. I think we should throw out all the candidates and start over.......Of course, I thought that the last election, too.

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Draginol

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People are willing to forgive mistakes most of the time. But they're not terribly forgiving of coverups.

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Anthony R

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I’m watching the “perky one” Judy Woodruff’s inside Politics on CNN, she reported that Don Heinous from MSNBC spoke to Kerry this morning. Heinous asked Kerry if the reports broken by Drudge were in fact a reality. Kerry denied an affair with an intern to Don Anus , Kerry said something like, and I’m not worried about it, its nothing.

That may be a good thing, because if history is any guide, an affair with an intern could have catapulted Kerry to living deity status among the mongrels and Huns that comprise the Democrat party.

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your prediction that right wing groups woll bound Kerry with this problem, is inaccurate.
It was Kerry's democratic friends who brought this to light.
What Kerry's problem will be from the Republican's and all other voters will be his behavior
concerning his antiwar activities. As a protestor, he indicated that there had been many atrocities committed by US soldiers, yet he did not bring this to light when he was serving in Vietnam. He waited until he returned home. He should have filed complaints within the military when he was there. Why not? It makes one wonder if everything that he said about this issue was true.
Also, he never really threw his medals away as he had claimed at the time.
As far as Bush's military guard service, those who bring this up are really insulting anyone who has served in the reserve. The Reserves are basically the backbone of the military.
The Reserves are usually the first to go anywhere and sacrifice the most. Remember alot of the military in Iraq are Reserves.
As far a whether he was there or not, it is more likely easier to prove that he was there.
I can not understand why this non-story is continued to be promoted.

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Matt Drudge-
Is NOT owned by anybody, especially the Right . If he say John Kerry had a 2 year affair with an intern I for one believe him. John Kerry is "the HEMI-Clinton ". Hopefully he sink like a stone and either John Edwards or Howard Dean will be The last Man Standing!

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I think you're all missing the point: Nobody's voting for Kerry because they like him - they're voting for him because they think he's electable. Whether the affair actually would hurt Kerry's reputation doesn't matter. If voters think it will, and figure that he won't be able to beat Bush after all, he's no longer "electable" and the primaries will shift their focus to the next most electable candidate. Kerry himself is incidental; people are voting for the idea of a candidate who can beat Bush, whether it turns out to be Kerry, Dean or Edwards.
But we've seen how two-faced he can be - first regarding his service in Vietnam and now his own marriage. I don't trust him for a second. Are you a proud vet or a testifying protestor? Both? Are you the devoted family man or the lecher? I don't care about his personal habits (like leaving socks under the bed). Honoring commitments is totally different issue.

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Democratic voters do not have the moral integrity to equate dishonesty to your family as a trait that should disqualify one from a leadership role. They simply only apply their "values" to others and not themselves. It is ok to be a racist, murderer, liar, and a cheat as long as you stand in line for the donkey coolaid!

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brad wardell:
It doesn't help Kerry. But I fully agree, many Democrats do not consider honoring commitments to be a big deal.

unlike loyal-to-their-wife republicans like newt gingrich, henry hyde, mayor giuliani, etc.

number of rep. divorces: at least one each. (not hyde: he only caused another couple's divorce).

number of clinton divorces: 0

not to mention those evil presidents like jefferson, fdr, kennedy, grover 'ma, ma, where's my pa? gone to the white house, ha, ha, ha' cleveland, harding, etc.

Presidential Peccadilloes

while i prefer candidates be faithful, thanks to the republicans and clinton, i no longer consider it when deciding who should be president. if extremes like harding and jefferson and fdr had affairs how am i to say with a straight face it affects presidential job performance?

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Democratic voters do not have the moral integrity to equate dishonesty to your family as a trait that should disqualify one from a leadership role.

Oh yes, and all those voters who voted for Gingrich surely had moral integrity. Or the fact that Reagan was married before? C'mon, no one's perfect, but at least the Democrats have the moral integrity not to be hypocrites.

Yeah, and if I say that New England seceded from the Union to my college students they'd believe me too, am I right though?

Cheers

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If a man lies to his wife, whom he has made a vow to, could we not assume that he will lie to the people he represents, the American people.

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The story is not the about the affair, in itself. The story is about why the story came out now. The story is about all the stories like this about Democrats that have come before and what has happened to those people.

The story is about what the GOP will do with this story if Kerry is the candidate.

The script is: Kerry is the "Electable" candidate.

And: The GOP will use their $170M war chest to try and destroy the Democratic candidate.

Therefore, given this story, the question is: Is Kerry still so "Electable?"

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To me the issue is the quality of the political debate. I would rather see a true opposition party -- Dems -- turn up the contrast between Bush. The campaign can then be won or lost on the merits. It seems to me that the Dems started this with the AWOL remark about Bush. And now that the documents have been released by the White House the story is dying because there is nothing there to be found. If Kerry has done nothing wrong, then he can take the same approach as Bush. Unfortunately for him, he seems to be heading towards a news conference similar to the one Clinton held where he denied all the allegations only to have to backtrack later.

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"If a man lies to his wife, whom he has made a vow to, could we not assume that he will lie to the people he represents, the American people."

Not a good analogy. You could also say because someone has betrayed their wife, they would betray their country. Far from true.

We need to come to the understanding that politics is in a large part the *art* of telling lies, or at most strategically telling the truth. For that reason, people who lie are gonna be drawn to it. Nothing in history is clearer. The best you can do is find someone to vote for that has the same outlook for the nation that you do, and hope like hell they aren't telling a lie about it.

With people like Kerry, you can see far deeper into him through his congressional record than through his marital fidelity.

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Jeblackstar: see my blog "draft dodging with honor".

Brad, what I don't understand is why would Clark leak the story and then endorse him the next day? Drudge is no Cronkite.

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Jeblackstar: see my blog "draft dodging with honor".

I have, I enjoyed it, I fail to see how the hypocrisy relating to "draft dodging" which, by the way, I think it can successfully argued that either both Clinton and Bush draft dodged, or neither did, the problem I think most democrats have is that Bush's draft dodging involved the pulling of strings by his influential father, and if I didn't say that in your blog, I should have.

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Drudge isn't actually saying there was an affair is he? He's just citing rumors. Mostly he's relying on UK newpapers, and they are quoting rumors reported by Drudge. At this point, we know this woman's father doesn't like Kerry. The woman is married and in Kenya. Some people who don't want to identify themselves say there was an affair. Is that about it?

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That's about it. So, since we're only talking about rumors, it seems kind of silly to get all hyped up about it.

Cheers

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Sharpton went one better tonight. If one is lying and yet doesn't know it, then we are really in big trouble.

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Draft dodging was wholesale then, so it's really not worth discussing; but what is worth a look is Bush's capitalizing on $500,000 of citizens' taxes and then shortchanging commitment to flying and becoming a foot-weekend warrior. And that's what really cuts to the Democratic quick, that he had the gall to pose as a fighter pilot on an aircraft carrier.

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Muggaz:Not all that funny, really.

I assure you that it's not his joke but your sense of humor that is suffering.

~Dan

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