Betrayal of Martin Luther King

By on January 20, 2009 12:41:25 PM from JoeUser Forums JoeUser Forums

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Two Months ago, America validated Martin Luther King's vision.  Today, Liberals, the Mainstream Media and the vested racial animosity groups drove us back 45 years.

2 months ago, America elected a black man as president.  Disregarding his race as a factor in stating they wanted a change.  But for the past year, Liberals, Race Ambulance Chasers, the Mainstream Media have worked doggedly to destroy King's vision.  And to turn back the hands of time so that instead of being able to judge a man on the content of his character, they are forcing America to judge him based upon the color of his skin.

Many people marched with King back in 63.  Wanting to keep alive a dream that many of us shared, and still share.  And some of us want to see yet to come.  But it is not now.  Today, America turned a deaf ear to King and instead marched backwards to the days when the content of a man's character was secondary to the color of his skin.

For many of us who have fought long and hard to realize that dream it is indeed a dark day.  It is not the fault of Obama, for he is a man who ran for and was elected president.  It is the fault of the liberals and Mainstream media that must force us to think of him not as a man, but as a black man.  It is very frustrating to see 45 years of work swept away with the new racists of 21st century America.

It is indeed a sad day for America.  I only hope that we can rebuild from this set back that has beset us.  And one day, the man elected president will not be known as "the <insert qualifier here> President", but as the American President.

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January 20, 2009 12:52:06 PM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

A sad time indeed for we have shown how easy it is to hide ones feelings as oppose to changing them.

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January 20, 2009 12:53:44 PM from PoliticalMachine Forums PoliticalMachine Forums

Well said Doc.

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January 20, 2009 1:39:58 PM from JoeUser Forums JoeUser Forums

A sad time indeed for we have shown how easy it is to hide ones feelings as oppose to changing them.

Yes.  Hiding behind a new racist mentality - and what is worse - using PC to brow beat those who see the emperor with no clothing. LIberals are not good at many things, but one thing they do excel at - accusing their opponents of that which they practice.

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January 20, 2009 1:40:18 PM from JoeUser Forums JoeUser Forums

Well said Doc.

Thanks.  I just had too much of it today.

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January 20, 2009 1:51:35 PM from PoliticalMachine Forums PoliticalMachine Forums

The Dream has gotten twisted over time and when you hear people bark about it.... they have it so messed up that it makes me sick

 

Now I am a white guy, and I even know what the Dream speach is all about... its not what these nuts that cry racism and then tag on MLK to it... thats the furthest thing he wanted. I see people as people as we all should outside of skin color... hell, in my posted job most guys that I work with are "black" outside of the culture difrnece... more or less the big city vs the small town, we work well together... talk every day and I treat them as I want to be treated.

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January 20, 2009 2:15:29 PM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

You wrote very elegantly what I was feeling today.  Race was so prominent today that it overshadowed everything.  It's historic because of the color of his skin?  If anything, that only answers the question "does it matter if you're black or white?" YES, YES, YES!  It absolutely matters.  He's both, but because outwardly his skin is dark, that is what defines him.  If that isn't racism alive and thriving, I don't know what is.

Our society is still so immature.  I don't think it is even realized that were he white like his mother, it wouldn't be history.  He wouldn't have gotten that far.  I don't see that as MLK Jr's dream.  His dream is that your skin shouldn't define you.  Your actions as a fellow human being is what should be seen.  That's not what's happening today.

I will not chant OBAMA or care about the color of the skin of the man in the White House but I will respect our President and I am proud to be an American.  We have a lot of work ahead of us and I'm hoping that we mature past booing President Bush or singing "Nah-nah-nah-nah, Goodbye" to a man who served our country for 8 yrs whether you liked him or not.  Grow up!

Sorry about the rant.  I think I stayed on subject for the most part

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January 20, 2009 2:45:27 PM from JoeUser Forums JoeUser Forums

He's not black, more like dark brown?

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January 20, 2009 2:50:20 PM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

I understand a part of what you are saying, but you can't realize the dream of King unless realize the signifigance of the day when the position of the American President is held by someone whose identity proves that the dream is reality. Media aside, do you not think this to be a historic day?

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January 20, 2009 2:55:07 PM from JoeUser Forums JoeUser Forums

do you not think this to be a historic day?
Isn't every inauguration day historic?

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January 20, 2009 4:44:50 PM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

It's amazing to me that none of you understand the significance of today for race relations in this country, mind boggling actually. A black man has been elected to the highest office in this country, today this country took its last step to officially becoming a country of equal citizens and this day had to happen for this to happen in the eyes of all blacks. until it did blacks were always going to feel like when push comes to shove they were still under the control of the white man.

Your right in thinking this inauguration should be no more significant to whites than any other but all you have to do is open your eyes and see a sea of black people at a presidential inauguration to understand the significance of this day too blacks and what's this "we've come so far"crap? As if not treating other humans like they were inferior was an accomplishment to be proud of.

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January 20, 2009 5:16:42 PM from JoeUser Forums JoeUser Forums

Isn't every inauguration day historic?

Sure. The same way that every trip to the moon was historic, but the first was more significant, this historic event is much more significant.

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January 20, 2009 5:25:42 PM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

all you have to do is open your eyes and see a sea of black people at a presidential inauguration to understand the significance of this day too blacks and what's this "we've come so far"crap?

And I think that's most peoples point here. It's the same mentality as "I'm a Steelers fan I'm glad they are in the bowl". For many being "black" was the only criteria he needed. I've no problem with Americans feeling proud, but I do have problems with why some may be proud. Shouldn't everyone have been just as proud when Bush was re-elected? Or is only some peoples pride valid? Sure it's a significant day, if McCain had won it would have been significant that we had our first woman VP, yet somehow I get a sneaking suspicion not nearly as many would be standing around singing Kum bye ya. We should all rejoice in the American system. I say good luck (which is fair better than what most gave Bush) and I hope Obama is successful. But my opinion on his actions is guarded, not because he's black, but because of policies.

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January 20, 2009 5:54:23 PM from JoeUser Forums JoeUser Forums

The Dream has gotten twisted over time and when you hear people bark about it.... they have it so messed up that it makes me sick

That is pretty much my sentiments as well.

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January 20, 2009 6:00:52 PM from JoeUser Forums JoeUser Forums

Sorry about the rant. I think I stayed on subject for the most part

Rant?  YOu wrote very eloquently yourself!  It is a trying time as most of America tries to march onward towards the dream, and those on the left are trying to hold us back.  I understand why Sharpton and Jackson want to stop it - when the goal is realized (or even when it comes close) they are out of business.  And their goal is no longer the goal of King, but of power, pure and simple.  But the others?  I can only look and wonder how they got to be so malevolent.

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January 20, 2009 6:01:26 PM from JoeUser Forums JoeUser Forums

He's not black, more like dark brown?

He could be pin striped for all that it matters.

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January 20, 2009 6:04:46 PM from JoeUser Forums JoeUser Forums

You don't think that a bunch of whites talking about how skin color shouldn't matter to be the height of hypocrisy since when we're the ones that made it matter in this country in the first place? You all need to just sit down shut up and let the blacks have their much deserved day.  

The idea that Obama won because he's black is absurd. Even if we had eight years of good republican leadership this country doesn't keep one party in office longer that eight years anymore. Eight years is long enough for everyone to forget that the other party was just as bad so we change just for change sake. I think this was a closer race because he was black but the argument is stupid because we couldn't possible know what effect panting a white face on Obama would have had.

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January 20, 2009 6:05:41 PM from JoeUser Forums JoeUser Forums

It's amazing to me that none of you understand the significance of today for race relations in this country, mind boggling actually. A black man has been elected to the highest office in this country

YOu have so many errors, and yet that does not surprise me.  That you responded signifies that you do so out of good intentions (on the road to hell) and not out of some malevolency.  Obama was not elected today, he was sworn in.  And the significance came 2 months ago, and was destroyed by the bleatings and babblings of the liberals and Media elite.  Heis our 44th President.  Not a messiah, not a demigod, not a savior.  He has a lot of work to prove himself, and I think he knows that now.  But I am afraid the Grimas will turn his head and he will start believing the sugar coated lies the racists tell him.  That he is somehow more than a man.

He is not.  He is one of 44 (42 if you dont count Cleveland twice and Ford).  As such, he begins tomorrow the same place the other 40 odd did.  No better, no worse.  And no different.

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January 20, 2009 6:07:47 PM from JoeUser Forums JoeUser Forums

this historic event is much more significant.

No, and that is the betrayal of King's ideals I was talking about.  It is no more significant than the other 43.  His election was the validation of King.  But sadly, his inauguration is the repudiation of it.

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January 20, 2009 6:11:10 PM from JoeUser Forums JoeUser Forums

It's the same mentality as "I'm a Steelers fan I'm glad they are in the bowl". For many being "black" was the only criteria he needed.

That is not even what got me.  As a sports fan, I can understand that mentality.  My team won!  Woo HOO!  And for them that is fine.  What I find abhorent and saddening, is the adulation by the left and the media about what amounts to a man.  A man that won, as 40+ others did before him.

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January 20, 2009 6:16:36 PM from JoeUser Forums JoeUser Forums

I think this was a closer race because he was black but the argument is stupid because we couldn't possible know what effect panting a white face on Obama would have had.

Like I said, leave it to the liberals to miss the message and endorse it!

You don't think that a bunch of whites talking about how skin color shouldn't matter to be the height of hypocrisy since when we're the ones that made it matter in this country in the first place? You all need to just sit down shut up and let the blacks have their much deserved day.

And I have a simple question for you and those "other whites".  What has his skin color got to do with anything today?  Not a damn thing.

And I will tell you one more thing.  WHat your father did, or my father did, is not what I have done or will do.  If you want to live and die in the past, go find peabody and his way back machine.  History cannot be changed, and if you are going to use it as a crutch to perpetuate your racism, there is nothing anyone can do about it - this is a free country (today at least).  But that does not mean that America as a nation has to wallow in your racism.

The idea that Obama won because he's black is absurd.

I dont see anyone putting forth that conclusion.  Indeed, no one has even said anything here about why he won.  And if you like, I will do another (among many that are already on this site) on why I think he won.  But this has nothing to do with it.

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January 20, 2009 8:28:13 PM from JoeUser Forums JoeUser Forums

No, and that is the betrayal of King's ideals I was talking about. It is no more significant than the other 43. His election was the validation of King. But sadly, his inauguration is the repudiation of it.

I don't think you have really read King. This is proof that we have moved beyond the tribulations of the 60s and is to be celebrated. If he were around today, do you think he would not want to celebrate this achievement we have made as a country? The inauguration is a celebration, not a repudiation of Kings vision. It is much more significant than the other 43 because it is tangible proof of progress in our country. You can choose not to see it, but it won't make it any less true.

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January 20, 2009 8:36:59 PM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

Like I said, leave it to the liberals to miss the message and endorse it!

Leave it to a conservative to be incapable of seeing things from someone else's perspective. Why don't you ask someone black to explain to you what this means to them and whether or not they think this would be good day for MLK.

And I have a simple question for you and those "other whites". What has his skin color got to do with anything today? Not a damn thing.

I'm real happy that the color of someone's skin is a non issue for you DG but that is not the world that we live in yet. Again if you disagree just ask a black guy if he's ever experienced judgment based on his skin color to see that this is still a reality for him. But what do you care? Your not responsible for what your ancestors did and no one has ever discriminated against you because you had white skin so you've already moved on. Well bully for you.

The hole point that you can't seem to grasp is this had to happen once and there was going to be massive recognition of it as a historical event. Now that it has happened it's done, if another black president is elected you won't hear a peep about the color of his skin, we will have moved on. That is why this is in no way a dark day for anyone.

Oh and when you ask a black man make sure he looks like Kimbo Slice so he can repay you for calling me a racist. I don't understand why you can't have a discussion without being nasty.

 

 

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January 20, 2009 8:42:06 PM from JoeUser Forums JoeUser Forums

The whole point that you can't seem to grasp is this had to happen once and there was going to be massive recognition of it as a historical event. Now that it has happened it's done, if another black president is elected you won't hear a peep about the color of his skin, we will have moved on. That is why this is in no way a dark day for anyone.

Amen!

And please, let's not ignore the fact that he is wildly popular as person. His charisma has nothing to do with his ethnicity. He is simply very likable by young people.

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January 20, 2009 10:54:02 PM from Stardock Forums Stardock Forums

Stubby, right on!

Doc, I understnad your sentiment, and what you're saying, but you have to understand, it is not possible to forget that he is a Black man.  Yes, we must address him and look at him as a man first, but let's face it, in this country, we all see color first and gender after!  It will be baby steps towards reaching the goal of seeing a person first, and then who they are later.  You shouldn't condemn those who do for this, it is a natural part of us, as breathing, you and others just didn't realise that until now.  It is so out there, and very obvious to what others have seen and know, and have pointed out in the past, now you all get it!  Dr King would be proud, so I don't think his sentiments was betrayed at all.  Baby steps, Doc, baby steps!

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January 21, 2009 12:49:28 AM from PoliticalMachine Forums PoliticalMachine Forums

Quoting foreverserenity,
Stubby, right on!

Doc, I understnad your sentiment, and what you're saying, but you have to understand, it is not possible to forget that he is a Black man.  Yes, we must address him and look at him as a man first, but let's face it, in this country, we all see color first and gender after!  It will be baby steps towards reaching the goal of seeing a person first, and then who they are later.  You shouldn't condemn those who do for this, it is a natural part of us, as breathing, you and others just didn't realise that until now.  It is so out there, and very obvious to what others have seen and know, and have pointed out in the past, now you all get it!  Dr King would be proud, so I don't think his sentiments was betrayed at all.  Baby steps, Doc, baby steps!

 

And why do we see color first? because its played on day after day after day after day after day after day...get what im saying? As long as the race card is played of course race will be an issue. You think I didnt vote for him because hes black? or the others for the most part that didnt vote for him? Not really... we voted on views or political party.

 

The media and the Libs always play the race card. As long as that is done putting race first will always be one of the factors. Get over yourself... MLK i really would think at first would be proud.... but as soon as race became and issue.,. out the window it goes.

 

BTW... Why do half and half always play on the minority? why never saying hes white ? answer this question Ill give you props

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