Ding dong the witch is almost dead...

(figuratively, not literally...)

from JoeUser Forums

Gee, I seem to recall someone  (one particular) suggesting that Obama was falling back to Earth and that Hillary was widening the gap and gaining strength.  In fact, there were some loco comments in this article: Hillary campaign insists on changing rules after the fact

So do the results that came in INdiana or North Carolina reflect that change?  If so, uh, gee, I seem to be missing it.[more]

In fact, now there are headlines showing up saying things like:

(From Drudge: Hillary plans to huddle with undecided super delegates tomorrow; gauging if she can go on... Developing...)

Or these results from the end of the evening:

NC [99% PRECINCTS]
OBAMA 888,979 56%
CLINTON 655,482 41%

IN [95% PRECINCTS]
CLINTON 606,497 51%
OBAMA 589,888 49%

So where exactly was that loss of momentum for Obama? Where was the gain for Hillary Clinton?

Even if Hillary Clinton somehow convinces the DNC to count the votes which shouldn't be counted (Florida and Michigan) she's virtually done.  She needed a blowout in Indiana and even with Republican voters casting votes for her in the hopes of keeping the race going on the Democratic side she still didn't get a convincing win there.  Most likely it'll be another of those phyrric victories where she can claim to have gotten the majority of the popular vote but then loses in the candidate count thanks to the screwey math that the Democrats are using.

In North Carolina (a big state that the Democrats need to win in the general election) the situation is completely hopeless.  15% margin in Obama's favor and a likely serious blowout in the delegate count going to him.

Hillary Clinton may stay in the race a little longer but the outcome has been known for a while and even attempting to plaster him as a racist in the vein of Rev. Wright hasn't derailed him.

Been nice knowin' you as a potential President Mrs. Clinton.  Now slink off to your spot in the Senate and go back to doing, well, nothing to help the country.

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Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top
It is politics, and a win is a win. IN the general election, a win by one vote gets you the whole state. All this one did was stunt her momentum (after her 9.x+ win in pennsylvania). Basically it threw the race back into a toss up. Locamama was right. If she had followed up her win in PA with impressive wins in these states, there would be no denying her. As it stands, it throws everything back in the air.

One candidate must resign for the good of the party while both still have a shot at the nomination. With any luck, that will not happen.
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Reply #3 from Stardock Forums Top

One candidate must resign for the good of the party while both still have a shot at the nomination.
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Not really on the 'both still have a shot...'

Look at the states that are left and consider Hillary Clinton's chances of winning them.

She has virtually no chance in Oregon, may pull out another symbolic victory in West Virginia that doesn't close the super delegate gap, and isn't likely to pull a majority of delegates in any other remaining state really.

Her only chance is to get Florida and Michigan counted and doing that will so badly alienate the Obama supporters that she may blow the party up from within.

She's staying into offer choice to her supporters, but realistically she can not win, not without finding an atomic bomb sized pile of dirt to dump on her opponent.  Even the Rev. Wright sized one didn't derail him and so far that has been her best hope to stop the inevitable.

Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top
Not really on the 'both still have a shot...'
Look at the states that are left and consider Hillary Clinton's chances of winning them.
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Wrong. Neither has a shot, and both do. Neither will "win" the nomination. They will be "given" it by the super delegates. So both still have a shot, and neither will win it. Hillary is as close as Obama.

What I really hate the most about this whole idiocy is to defend Hillary (who I cannot stand). But then I have alweays hated the hyperbole and spin that passes for debate and discussion on the left. I guess I abhor their hatred and stupidity more than Hillary - she is just a manifestation of it (along with her unbridled lust for power for power's sake).
Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top
All I know is I'm enjoying the show! :CONGRAT:
Reply #6 from Stardock Forums Top

sniffle, sniffle :SNIFF!: , I guess it's time to start tearing the bowling out of the White House to make room for the basketball court. - lol

Honestly, I'm not giving up on Hillary until she gives up. 

Reply #7 from Stardock Forums Top

Okay I meant bowling alley and she is NOT a witch - ;P , You're just jealous because you know that no one can rock a pantsuit like Hillary. 

Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top
she is NOT a witch
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NO? Ah, crap I was hoping we were going to get off of foreign oil and utilize broom sticks!
Reply #9 from Stardock Forums Top

Honestly, I'm not giving up on Hillary until she gives up.
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Sometime in the distant future...:P

~Zoo

Reply #10 from Stardock Forums Top

I gave up on Hillary long ago. The only reason I want her to stay in the race is so that she and Obama hurt each other.

Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
Okay I meant bowling alley
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Bowling is fine. She will bowl over a lot of people if she gets in. ;)
Reply #12 from Stardock Forums Top

I gave up on Hillary long ago. The only reason I want her to stay in the race is so that she and Obama hurt each other.
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... and even with voters normally on the Republican side voting for Hillary to hurt Obama she could barely squeak out a win in INdiana.  Take those votes away and she loses there and has the obvious hitting her in the face this a.m. rather than continuing to be deluded with thoughts that she still has a chance.

Reply #13 from Stardock Forums Top

The oval office is her's, her's her's her's. She'll leave this election kicking and screaming.

Reply #14 from JoeUser Forums Top
The oval office is her's, her's her's her's. She'll leave this election kicking and screaming.
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I hope you are right - in a straight jacket straight to bellvue. ;)
Reply #15 from Stardock Forums Top

Even thought I think Hussein is a lemon-head and will lose the general election, just the fact of Hillary not even getting a chance to run has brought much joy to this old man. She is one of the biggest liars in politics and that says a lot, since Congress is the single largest collection of liars on the planet. I do hope she continues to run though and although her supporters have sworn to vote McCain if Hussein gets the nod I don't believe them either, as Democrats seems to forget all promises made during an election, like the one where they would all leave America if Bush won a second term. I even offered to pay a one way ticket to any country they would move to, right after they officially gave up their American citizenship, in writing, in court,. alas not one Democrat took me up on my more that generous offer.

Reply #16 from JoeUser Forums Top

The witch may be dead, but don't expect much when the wizard steps out from behind his quasi-socialist curtain. Change you can believe in LOL. He'll change into the same politician as the rest of them, there's the change. Ah the dissapointed looks on there little faces when the realization hits, priceless.

Reply #17 from PolMach Forums Top
Even thought I think Hussein is a lemon-head and will lose the general election,
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And Bush's brain addled old brother John McSame will never have the support of anyone with morals and a functioning brain. I can see the commercials now "John McSame will work to kill your eighteen year old kid in Iraq and work to continue the economic destruction of the United States started by Bush."
Reply #18 from JoeUser Forums Top
The_Politico,

Serious question here. Why is it acceptable for you to vote for a horrible candidate just because you consider the other candidate worse? Isn't it time we started expecting REAL leadership?
Reply #19 from PolMach Forums Top
Why is it acceptable for you to vote for a horrible candidate just because you consider the other candidate worse?
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Because the Bush argument of "They would be worse than me" is all they have. Their is no reasonable justifiable logic that would explain supporting ANY Republican this year.
Reply #20 from JoeUser Forums Top
Serious question here. Why is it acceptable for you to vote for a horrible candidate just because you consider the other candidate worse? Isn't it time we started expecting REAL leadership?
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When was the last time this wasn't the norm?
Reply #21 from JoeUser Forums Top
Because the Bush argument of "They would be worse than me" is all they have. Their is no reasonable justifiable logic that would explain supporting ANY Republican this year.
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Repeat after me:

Bush isn't running
Bush isn't running
Bush isn't running

I would like to know why every liberal in America has to bring "Bush sucks" into any discussion. Come on, you HAVE to be able to do better than that. The fact is, both parties have produced absolutely worthless candidates repeatedly, and until we insist on better, we will not receive better.

When was the last time this wasn't the norm?
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Just because it's the norm doesn't make it right.
Reply #22 from JoeUser Forums Top
I would like to know why every liberal in America has to bring "Bush sucks" into any discussion.
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Not every liberal - just the idiots that dont know the constitution.
Reply #23 from JoeUser Forums Top
When was the last time this wasn't the norm?
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1948.

Reply #24 from PolMach Forums Top
Bush isn't running
Bush isn't running
Bush isn't running
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McSame is running on the promise of the Bush third term. Every Republican who worked to propagate the disastrous Bush policies can and will be held accountable for Bush. Bush will be hung around the neck like a giant dogshit necklace, and most republicans would probably prefer the dogshit necklace to having Bush campaign for them.
Reply #25 from JoeUser Forums Top
Bush isn't running
Bush isn't running
Bush isn't running
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For the reading impaired, a repeat.