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Yay! Supreme Court upholds photo ID law for voters in Indiana

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Yay! Supreme Court upholds photo ID law for voters in Indiana

6-3 decision for common sense

from JoeUser Forums

I love this news (from Associated Press, by Mark Sherman, Associated Press Writer):

Supreme Court upholds photo ID law for voters in Indiana

WASHINGTON - The Supreme Court ruled Monday that states can require voters to produce photo identification without violating their constitutional rights, validating Republican-inspired voter ID laws.

In a splintered 6-3 ruling, the court upheld Indiana's strict photo ID requirement, which Democrats and civil rights groups said would deter poor, older and minority voters from casting ballots. Its backers said it was needed to prevent fraud.

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For details on who voted what ways for this one:[more]

The law "is amply justified by the valid interest in protecting 'the integrity and reliability of the electoral process,'" Justice John Paul Stevens said in an opinion that was joined by Chief Justice John Roberts and Anthony Kennedy. Stevens was a dissenter in Bush v. Gore in 2000.

Justices Samuel Alito, Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas also agreed with the outcome, but wrote separately.

Justices Stephen Breyer, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and David Souter dissented, just as they did in 2000 (in Bush v. Gore).

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The opinions for this one actually should make for very interesting reading for those that care to spend the time on the topic.  Regardless, I'm glad to see the decision that came here and obviously (from my headline/title) am happy about same.

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Reply #26 from JoeUser Forums Top
Another mindless wheeze from a brainless flea.
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The Delete button is your friend. There is no point in having a vegetable Col Klink trash every thread with their mindless ranting. Posting on topic can be enforced. If they have nothing positive to write, then they can stay on topic. Or be deleted. It shuts them up - after the 4th or 5th time (slow learner and all).
Reply #27 from JoeUser Forums Top

I think people should be DNA screened and micro-chipped at birth....ideally with a GPS beacon as well.

Anyone found lacking....execute summarily.

Won't happen, tho...would really fuck-up crime....and we all know who the biggest crims are....;)

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Reply #28 from JoeUser Forums Top
Once again the point is proved that people with Bush Derangement Syndrome can't handle a debate where their BS is challenged.
Reply #29 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply #23
The_Politico wrote:

Do they go to their house? When you are in a wheelchair in the middle of downtown New York or Chicago or wherever are you just supposed to hop in your car and drive there?

My reply:
If they can jump in their car then they have to already have a picture ID! Try to stay on point if you can. We are discussing the law as it stands in the state of Indiana, not Chicago which is a city in Illinois or New York which is a state unless you are talking about the city which is still in the state of New York. The law says that if you need one you will be provided one. If you are disabled as I am, you have a picture ID from the federal government. You get another picture id from the state if you need one. Show one place in Indiana where you can’t get a state ID card.
Reply #30 from JoeUser Forums Top
YAY!

Justice and the rule of law have been served! Right here in my home town no less.

Indiana nuns lacking ID denied at poll by fellow sister

About 12 Indiana nuns were turned away Tuesday from a polling place by a fellow sister because they didn't have state or federal identification bearing a photograph.

Sister Julie McGuire said she was forced to turn away her fellow members of Saint Mary's Convent in South Bend, across the street from the University of Notre Dame, because they had been told earlier that they would need such an ID to vote.

The nuns, all in their 80s or 90s, didn't get one but came to the precinct anyway.

"One came down this morning, and she was 98, and she said, 'I don't want to go do that,'" Sister McGuire said. Some showed up with outdated passports. None of them drives.

The rest of the story is here.WWW Link
Reply #31 from JoeUser Forums Top
YAY!

Justice and the rule of law have been served! Right here in my home town no less.
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And your point would be? We're supposed to let anyone in a habit vote without ID? Simply because they didn't "want to go do that"?
Reply #32 from JoeUser Forums Top
We're supposed to let anyone in a habit vote without ID?
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Sure! Eric Idle would qualify under that system - even though he is not an American citizen!

Another misconception - all nuns in the US are US citizens. What an assinine assumption.

For the record, my Aunt, also a nun, had photo ID. And she did not have to abandon her habit to get it.
Reply #33 from JoeUser Forums Top
I think it is a shining example of patriotism for the nun to demonstrate that her sisters are not above the law as stated by Jesus, render unto Cesar what is Cesar’s if that is the law then they are not just bound by man but by their religion to follow the rules. Since the sister was a poll worker and was of the same order as her sisters you can’t say that they did not get the word.
Reply #34 from JoeUser Forums Top
Sister Julie McGuire said she was forced to turn away her fellow members of Saint Mary's Convent in South Bend, across the street from the University of Notre Dame, because they had been told earlier that they would need such an ID to vote.
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Congratulations to Sister Julie McGuire for putting her principles and ethics above friendship and association!
Reply #35 from PolMach Forums Top
Anyone found lacking....execute summarily.
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So you are proposing the execution of all Bush supporters and conservatives in general.
Reply #36 from PolMach Forums Top
Once again the point is proved that people with Bush Derangement Syndrome can't handle a debate where their BS is challenged.
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Once again the point is proved that people with Bush Cocksucking Syndrome can't find enough functioning braincells to comprehend that it is possible to disagree with the Republican lord and savior GW Bush.
Reply #37 from PolMach Forums Top
We are discussing the law as it stands in the state of Indiana, not Chicago which is a city in Illinois or New York which is a state unless you are talking about the city which is still in the state of New York.
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No we are discussing the blatantly criminal, unconstitutional justification of an UNAMERICAN law. Scalia is the same psychopath who argues that torturing someone isn't punishment.
Reply #38 from JoeUser Forums Top
No we are discussing the blatantly criminal, unconstitutional justification of an UNAMERICAN law. Scalia is the same psychopath who argues that torturing someone isn't punishment.
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The law was passed by the local legislature, it was challenged by the liberals on the grounds that it did not allow them to cheat in elections anymore. It went back and forth till it went all the way to the Supreme Court which ruled that the law was constitutional. It was implemented and not one article was printed stating that people could not get valid Identification in time to vote in the election. The best the left could come up with as 12 nuns that chose not to get the proper ID and were turned away. It sound like the law works if only 12 out of several million voters were turned away. The nuns have until November to find a way to get their ID as well.

I will give you some vocabulary words to look up and study, I will type slowly because I know your have trouble reading. Here is the list for this week. Reading, Comprehension, Topic, Points (within the topic), Rebuttal, Context, Truth, Lies, and Ignorance. Please look them up and study them then try to apply what you learned when in a discussion of your peers, when you’re done with the 5th grade you can then work your way up to this blog.
Reply #39 from JoeUser Forums Top
Politico, name one government program for the elderly or poor that doesn't require proof of eligibility.

Every illegal vote cancels out a legal vote, and you sit there and try to tell us that it doesn't matter.
Reply #40 from JoeUser Forums Top
I will give you some vocabulary words to look up and study, I will type slowly because I know your have trouble reading. Here is the list for this week. Reading, Comprehension, Topic, Points (within the topic), Rebuttal, Context, Truth, Lies, and Ignorance. Please look them up and study them then try to apply what you learned when in a discussion of your peers, when you’re done with the 5th grade you can then work your way up to this blog.
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You are a good man! If only tilting at windmills. But you made one mistake. She does not have trouble reading, she cant comprehend! ;)
Reply #41 from PolMach Forums Top
it was challenged by the liberals on the grounds that it did not allow them to cheat in elections anymore.
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Actually it was passed on the grounds that Republicans opposed the concept of democracy and felt only wealthy white landowners votes should count.
Reply #42 from PolMach Forums Top
Every illegal vote cancels out a legal vote
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Name five people prosecuted in the state of Indiana for voter fraud by attempting to vote at the polls when they were illegal.

Reply #43 from JoeUser Forums Top
Politico, enough with your sidestepping the challenge. If you can't answer the challenge, at least have enough integrity to admit it.


Name five people prosecuted in the state of Indiana for voter fraud by attempting to vote at the polls when they were illegal.
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That's a red herring question.

There were over 15,000 proven counts of voter fraud in Milwaukee in the last presidential election, however there were 0 conviction.

However, I'll play along with your silly little game and name more than just 5...

Those convicted are:

1 Ricardo Alamillo
2 Jose Arroyo
3 Edwin Aviles
4 Rachel Aviles
5 Larry Battle
6 Brian Berkman
7 Tonya Bronaugh
8 Raymond Carillo
9 John Carlyle
10 Michelle Chandler
11 Dolores Croy
12 Robert Croy
13 Mario Delvalle
14 Alicia Dunbar
15 Ivan Dunbar
16 Ashley Dunlap
17 Ezequiel Godinez
18 Ramon Guillen, Jr.
19 Florentino Guillen
20 Michael Harretos
21 Natividad Hernandez*
22 Mabel Komendat
23 Ronald Komendat
24 Tamika Lay
25 Valerie McGowan
26 Alyicia Mendiola
27 Antonio Mendiola
28 Pedro Moro
29 Mark Orosco
30 Eduardo Perez
31 Glenn Pitts
32 Yolanda Ramirez
33 Allan “Twig” Simmons
34 Levones Tolbert
35 Arthur Vera
36 Elvia Vera
37 Armando Vera
38 Shelly White

With other cases still pending.

There, you ignorant little pissant, I accepted your challenge... when will you accept mine?
Reply #44 from PolMach Forums Top
enough with your sidestepping the challenge.
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What form of brain damage do you have that you are dumb enough to think I was sidestepping a challenge?

That's a red herring question.
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Not at all, they claimed that it prevented illegal aliens from voting. Your "evidence" does not specify that they were attempting to vote at the polls or that they were illegal.

Thats like me claiming that everyone speeds by citing an article stating that someone somewhere was charged with a traffic violation. Try actual case specifics.
Reply #45 from PolMach Forums Top
enough with your sidestepping the challenge.
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You flatter yourself by thinking that you are in any way capable of challenging me. That would be like me being challenged by the pile of dog droppings on the sidewalk. Though the pile of dog droppings would likely be insulted at being compared to you.
Reply #46 from JoeUser Forums Top
What form of brain damage do you have that you are dumb enough to think I was sidestepping a challenge?
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The fact you haven't taken me up on it would be my first clue.

Idiot, follow the link and read... you might learn something.


It's total fools like you that perpetuate illegal voting. Slither back into the sewer with the rest of the turds.
Reply #47 from JoeUser Forums Top
What form of brain damage do you have that you are dumb enough to think I was sidestepping a challenge?
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The fact you haven't taken me up on it would be my first clue.

Idiot, follow the link and read... you might learn something.

Now will you just answer my question, or admit you have no point.
Reply #48 from Stardock Forums Top

You should always need an ID to vote. Is there any other question?

Reply #49 from PolMach Forums Top
What form of brain damage do you have that you are dumb enough to think I was sidestepping a challenge?The fact you haven't taken me up on it would be my first clue.Idiot, follow the link and read... you might learn something.It's total fools like you that perpetuate illegal voting. Slither back into the sewer with the rest of the turds.
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You mean your IRRELEVANT comparison to government programs? When did voting become a "government program"?
Reply #50 from JoeUser Forums Top
The fact you haven't taken me up on it would be my first clue.

Idiot, follow the link and read... you might learn something.
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You're wasting your time trying to get an honest, intelligent, fact based response from that cretin. Insults and parroting of DNC talking points is all it knows. You'll never get a direct answer to a question because it doesn't truly know how to think for itself, it just repeats what it's read and heard elsewhere without ever bothering to check any facts as that would require actual thought.