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Democrats Attempt Rules Change to Allow Tax Hikes

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May 18, 2007 8:25:23 AM from JoeUser ForumsJoeUser Forums
No surprise here folks.  This is what is coming, and just imagine if they get the White House.

n a stunning move, House Democrats today revealed they will attempt to rewrite House rules that have gone unchanged since 1822 in order to make it possible to increase taxes and government spending without having to vote and be held accountable.  House Republican Leader John Boehner (R-OH) today vowed Republicans will use every available means to fight this unprecedented change.

"This is an astonishing attempt by the majority leadership to duck accountability for tax-and-spend policies the American people do not want," Boehner said.  "The majority leadership is gutting House rules that have been in place for 185 years so they can raise taxes and increase government spending without a vote.  House Republicans will use every tool available to fight this abuse of power."




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Reply #1 May 18, 2007 8:30:08 AM
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It "FEKKING" figures!
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Reply #2 May 18, 2007 10:23:10 AM
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What are House Democrats afraid of?

The same thing Roaches are afraid of.

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Reply #3 May 18, 2007 11:28:47 AM
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Democrats realize any tax increases are not popular with Americans.  You can listen to socialists like col all day, but people understand raising taxes and class warfare are not the way to go.

Here is the best quote:

“[W]e promised the American people that we would have the most honest and most open government and we will.” (Nancy Pelosi press stakeout, December 6, 2006)



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Reply #4 May 18, 2007 11:11:20 PM
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Dem's, Rep's...they're all the same. I wish I got free medical for life.
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Reply #5 May 19, 2007 11:15:22 PM
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Well the pro-tax advocates here don't seem to have much of a problem with this.
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Reply #6 May 19, 2007 11:56:44 PM
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Well the pro-tax advocates here don't seem to have much of a problem with this.


yea but you have to remember they think the government knows everything and WE THE PEOPLE are stupid

isn't that right dictator col gene
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Reply #7 May 20, 2007 10:51:53 PM
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come on people where is the outrage on this one
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Reply #8 May 20, 2007 11:04:06 PM
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come on people where is the outrage on this one


The truth seems to be that Americans LIKE high taxes. I've harped on the issue till I'm blue in the face, as have others. But the majority of Americans seem to think that a government that operates efficiently is a government that's not doing its job.

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Reply #9 May 20, 2007 11:45:50 PM
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the democrats it seems are trying to make tax hikes as easy as it is for them to give themselves a pay raise

even dictator col gene should be outraged by that
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Reply #10 May 21, 2007 7:34:27 AM
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The truth seems to be that Americans LIKE high taxes.


No, I think it is they dont see them. Withholding is the man behind the curtain when it comes to taxes. Most people never see the money, so they do not miss it. If they had to write a check (never going to happen), there would be a new rebellion against Washington.
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Reply #11 May 21, 2007 12:08:09 PM
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The truth seems to be that Americans LIKE high taxes.


I would bet many Americans have absolutely no knowledge about taxes in general.

However, once again democrats attempt something like this and the media is silent about it.


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Reply #12 May 21, 2007 12:17:16 PM
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No, I think it is they dont see them. Withholding is the man behind the curtain when it comes to taxes. Most people never see the money, so they do not miss it. If they had to write a check (never going to happen), there would be a new rebellion against Washington


I agree with this 100%.
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Reply #13 May 21, 2007 4:42:06 PM
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There doesn't really appear to be much to actually report. The only thing your article has to go on is a memo from Boehner's office.

Specifically, what rule are they attempting to change?
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Reply #14 May 22, 2007 11:35:18 AM
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No more details on this yet?
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Reply #15 May 22, 2007 12:07:21 PM
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No, I think it is they dont see them. Withholding is the man behind the curtain when it comes to taxes. Most people never see the money, so they do not miss it. If they had to write a check (never going to happen), there would be a new rebellion against Washington


Dr. Guy,

I challenge you to this: ask them, liberal OR conservative, to take cuts to THEIR pet programs, and they'll have a bird.

A few years ago, a friend of mine who claimed to be a true conservative had a conniption because we were lobbying to fight the online charter school system in Wisconsin. The whole idea was to sell public schools to homeschoolers by offering them nice gifts (namely, free laptops) to help their children's learning experience. Basically, it meant higher taxes to compensate for the extra incoming students. And this is not a scenario I have seen once, but time and time again. We all want to cut the OTHER side's programs.

Until we're willing to accept that fiscal responsibility comes only when we ALL bite the bullet, we will not EVER bring spending under control.
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Reply #16 May 22, 2007 12:17:21 PM
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I challenge you to this: ask them, liberal OR conservative, to take cuts to THEIR pet programs, and they'll have a bird.


You will get no arguement from me. On another thread I basically said the same thing. Pork is the universal meat of politics.

But if you are challenging my contention of a rebellion, then we can debate that issue. I think if people really saw how much they were paying - by writing checks - monthly would do as well as quarterly - they would have a cow. And I am not talking just federal, but ALL withholding tax - including the ponzie scheme ones.
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Reply #17 May 23, 2007 1:33:25 PM
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Specifically, what rule are they attempting to change?

http://www.rules.house.gov/archives/recommit_mot.htm

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