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And the Double Standard Award goes to . . .

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from JoeUser Forums
I don't know how many of you are familiar with what happened here in Utah when "Brokeback Mountain" came out, but for those of you who don't know, here's a quick synopsis.
Local business owner Larry Miller owns three theaters in the Salt Lake area. His theater had purchased and was planning to show "Brokeback Mountain" because there was a lot of hype behind the film, and of course the observant capitalist is always looking for a way to make some more money . . .
Then a couple of days before the nationwide release of the movie, Mr. Miller heard what it was about. And promptly pulled it from all three of his theaters.
Mr. Miller didn't make a statement about why he pulled the film, so the public was left to its ruminations, which ranged from people being outraged over his "bigoted" behavior to people praising his "stand for morals".


Then, in April, he finally broke the silence, and shared with a newscaster that he pulled the film in support of "traditional families". Never mind the other smut-filled tripe that his theaters were playing, his stance was for the family.
For those who also don't know, Mr. Miller owns a TV station here too, and the TV reporter in the newspaper wrote a fascinating article comparing what his TV station airs to what Mr. Miller used as his reasoning for pulling the flick.
The results are interesting: Link
This is the station that airs Will and Grace on a daily basis. Will and Grace, a show about flamboyantly homosexual individuals is okay, but "Brokeback Mountain" is an attack on traditional families?
Sounds like a double standard to me . . .
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Reply #26 from JoeUser Forums Top

But froth at the mouth because a movie like that has been made and is being watched by someone, somewhere? That I just don't get.

I have seen some contempt and distaste, but I have not really a "froth at the mouth" reaction to the movie.  The overwelming reaction is one of boredom.  As most people dont have strong feelings about it.  Just an attitude of "There they go again....... (fill in your own cliche)".

Reply #27 from JoeUser Forums Top

I remember not liking it that much, but enjoying Annie Proulx's writing style.

Dont tell Annie!  She will tar and feather you!

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Reply #28 from JoeUser Forums Top
I have seen some contempt and distaste, but I have not really a "froth at the mouth" reaction to the movie. The overwelming reaction is one of boredom. As most people dont have strong feelings about it. Just an attitude of "There they go again....... (fill in your own cliche)".


Good point. I think that Hollywood tried to make it a much bigger deal than it was. I think that Pat Robertson was the only one who was "frothing at the mouth", and ANYTHING will do that to him . . .

Dont tell Annie! She will tar and feather you!


Believe me, I hope she's not a blogger here, or I think I'm going to have to change my username! And I like being the patron saint of women's undies!!!!!
Reply #29 from JoeUser Forums Top
You mean, Will carried on an illicit affair with a man for years behind his wife's back and he broke up his family for the affair? Or was that Jack? I missed that part of the plot of Will and Grace. Please direct me to the episodes that explain that so I can do the research.

The issues with "Brokeback Mountain" aren't just about the homosexual theme, san, but about the propaganda that says that pursuing the love of your life is worth it, no matter how many people you hurt in the process.

But only a liberal would trivialize it to be an issue solely about homosexuality.
Reply #30 from JoeUser Forums Top
Off subject, but if that had been a movie about a heterosexual couple having an extramarital affair it would've just been the fifteenth dumb flick like that to come out that year.
None of us would've even BLINKED.


Wrong. I HATED "American Beauty", for instance. I ALWAYS "blink" at those sorts of shows, and so do many people I know.
Reply #31 from JoeUser Forums Top
But only a liberal would trivialize it to be an issue solely about homosexuality.


Gid, Gid, Gid. And after I've tried to be so nice on your site, you've got to resort to name calling! Same to you, buddy! Libertarian! This wasn't an issue of homosexuality - those who commented made it an issue purely about homosexuality. And let's be honest, lots of the people who commented on here are rather conservative . . . I'm pretty much in the minority, and the few that are on my side (Like poor, poor COL Gene) I don't really agree with or want to associate with because of his rhetoric spewing.

Wrong. I HATED "American Beauty", for instance. I ALWAYS "blink" at those sorts of shows, and so do many people I know.


I'm afraid that you all are in the minority around these parts . . . the only reason this movie got any press was because of the homosexuality. Just Hollywood trying to strech its limits again . . .
Reply #32 from JoeUser Forums Top

I'm pretty much in the minority, and the few that are on my side (Like poor, poor COL Gene)

I would not claim that one.

Reply #33 from JoeUser Forums Top
I would not claim that one.


I know, I try not to . . . he's a little . . . squirrelly.
Reply #34 from JoeUser Forums Top

know, I try not to . . . he's a little . . . squirrelly.

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Reply #35 from JoeUser Forums Top
Ah yes, and this is a great example of the rise of the 'double standard modern conservative'. With the popularity of the movie proving to outshine the controversy, I wonder if Mr. Miller is now kicking himself because of the cash he missed out on by not showing it.

What a moron.
Reply #36 from JoeUser Forums Top
Ah yes, and this is a great example of the rise of the 'double standard modern conservative'. With the popularity of the movie proving to outshine the controversy, I wonder if Mr. Miller is now kicking himself because of the cash he missed out on by not showing it.


The funniest part is, he didn't miss out on much cash at all. The movie didn't do very well domestically, and really did horrid here in the state of Utah.
Not too many people around here (because there is a SERIOUS conservative majority here) were willing to see the movie.
Reply #37 from JoeUser Forums Top

I know, I try not to . . . he's a little . . . squirrelly.


Only a little?
More like a whole heck of a LOT!
Reply #38 from JoeUser Forums Top
Only a little? More like a whole heck of a LOT!


Just trying to be nice . . . I am still new around these parts, don't want to piss too many people off . . . although I guess we've all pissed off the colonel at one point or another.
But I can't help it - every time he writes some new bit of rhetoric, I can't help but imagine it's Colonel Sanders saying it, and the giggles commence . . . maybe that's not nice of me, but it sure makes his posts more interesting if you can imagine a good strong Kentucky accent with them . . .
Reply #39 from JoeUser Forums Top
Not too many people around here (because there is a SERIOUS conservative majority here) were willing to see the movie.


Serious being the operative word, for sure. It does make for some interesting bed-fellows, if you'll pardon the pun. Conservatives are alright, as long as they can agree to disagree with me. But I don't like it when seemingly intelligent people are reduced to name-calling etc. I'm all for open, honest , adult dialogue. If it is anything else, I lose interest very quickly.
Reply #40 from JoeUser Forums Top
"But I can't help it - every time he writes some new bit of rhetoric, I can't help but imagine it's Colonel Sanders saying it, and the giggles commence . . . maybe that's not nice of me, but it sure makes his posts more interesting if you can imagine a good strong Kentucky accent with them . . ."


*COUGH* I think... not.
Reply #41 from JoeUser Forums Top
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True. But if they had been heterosexuals having a heterosexual "fling" every so often the world would've yawned and it would have been a super dud, not a "Best Picture" candidate.


No, if is were a heterosexual fling the film would have been called "The Bridges of Madison County" and we would have been asked to look at that extramarital affair as someting beautiful, instead of the ugly, lying, adultery it was.
Reply #42 from JoeUser Forums Top
we would have been asked to look at that extramarital affair as someting beautiful, instead of the ugly, lying, adultery it was.


Adultery is never ugly - it's just misunderstood!
Reply #43 from JoeUser Forums Top
No, if is were a heterosexual fling the film would have been called "The Bridges of Madison County" and we would have been asked to look at that extramarital affair as someting beautiful, instead of the ugly, lying, adultery it was.


Good point, Ted. That was a big movie a few years back. But that was a few years ago. Since then, plenty of movies dealing with the same thing have come through and it's just been ho-hum.
In fact, I'd be willing to bet a decent chunk of money that Mr. Miller showed "Bridges of Madison County" in his theaters when it came out . . . I don't know how I'd find that out, but I'd just bet. Oh well. Whatever.

Adultery is never ugly - it's just misunderstood!


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Reply #44 from JoeUser Forums Top
Conservatives are alright, as long as they can agree to disagree with me. But I don't like it when seemingly intelligent people are reduced to name-calling etc. I'm all for open, honest , adult dialogue. If it is anything else, I lose interest very quickly.


Great point, maso. That's why, for example, Dr. Guy and I can get along - yes, he's conservative and I'm liberal, but we can have honest dialogue. It's not a big deal. Plus, when you aren't too serious about it, it can be a lot of fun.

*COUGH* I think... not.


You're missing out, Baker. You're really missing out. Remember the Colonel in his big white suit . . .
Reply #45 from JoeUser Forums Top

You're really missing out. Remember the Colonel in his big white suit . .

Hmm, now that is an interesting image.  But I cant get the vision of foghorn leghorn in that white suit for some reason.  Ah Say, Ah Say. What ya doin boy?

Reply #46 from JoeUser Forums Top
Hmm, now that is an interesting image. But I cant get the vision of foghorn leghorn in that white suit for some reason. Ah Say, Ah Say. What ya doin boy?


ha ha ha ha ha ha! Okay, I've obviously not gotten enough sleep of late, because that joke had me laughing so hard that if the laptop hadn't actually been on my lap, I probably would have fallen on the floor.
Do you remember those old commercials with the stupid animated colonel sanders? That's who I imagine . . .
Reply #47 from JoeUser Forums Top
Nope, I'm not missing out, I hear a Kentucky accent every time I open my mouth. The Col wasn't a bad guy, either, and I've known several members of the Order of Kentucky Colonels. You imagine the Col any way you like, but I don't wanna think about it.
Reply #48 from JoeUser Forums Top
The funniest part is, he didn't miss out on much cash at all. The movie didn't do very well domestically, and really did horrid here in the state of Utah.
Not too many people around here (because there is a SERIOUS conservative majority here) were willing to see the movie.


What most people don't realize is it was NOT the blockbuster it claimed to be. The numbers were dishonestly manipulated, and the only reason it played to packed houses everywhere it played was because they didn't take the risk of releasing it in areas with a conservative majority. The hype around this movie was despicable and dishonest.